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Old 11-24-2020, 08:14 AM   #799
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And maybe some brave soul will disconnect the oil cooler and plug the vents to see what the actual temperatures are without them. Willing to bet it ain't pretty.
Yea, doubt they included it for any other reason than it really is required for the longevity of the engine.
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Yea, doubt they included it for any other reason than it really is required for the longevity of the engine.
There should be some small benefit from the oil coming up to temperature more quickly, particularly in colder ambient temps. If oil temps are still >260F at the track, which seems likely, some people will still be freaked out...
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Old 11-24-2020, 09:10 AM   #801
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There should be some small benefit from the oil coming up to temperature more quickly, particularly in colder ambient temps. If oil temps are still >260F at the track, which seems likely, some people will still be freaked out...
I retro-fitted that same oil cooler onto my FRS. It's connected into the throttle body coolant line. I'm curious where it's connected on the 2022.

It definitely helps with oil warmup, I'm in Canada, as well as helping bring temps down a bit on the track.
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Old 11-24-2020, 09:11 AM   #802
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Comparing the FR-S to the 86 to the new BRZ as far as wheel torque at given vehicle speeds. I assumed that the car was in the ideal gear at each speed.





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From my understanding, the Forester type oil/water heat exchanger functions more to warm the oil quicker, than as an actual oil cooler. Perhaps in extreme temperatures it also helps keep oil temp from overrun.
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There should be some small benefit from the oil coming up to temperature more quickly, particularly in colder ambient temps. If oil temps are still >260F at the track, which seems likely, some people will still be freaked out...
Yeah I am not overly concerned with temps, just pressure. A lot of the high end synthetics don't break down till well above those temps and people seem to get really concerned when they see high temps but don't know their pressures.

To answer your other post, I peak out at around mid 270's during a long session during the summer. I have read through both those threads on temps/pressure. Though like I said I haven't ruled out my sending unit or position of the unit being the issue. It is just something I have observed on my own car and went back to 0-20 because of it. I am personally not happy with Killer B. After getting one of their pickup tubes and it was built wrong. I sent it back after talking with them about it, I offered to modify it but they insisted they replace it. After 3 months of waiting I told them forget about it because they already had a couple times.
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I will never understand this whole "techs don't know different engines" thought process.

Are the techs in the US bred specifically for one make and have some inherent gene that prevents them from understanding any engine but that? Is there a law that says a tech from one make must only work on that one and never switch to a different brand?
Maybe that's why they are called techs now instead of mechanics. They technically only know one engine.
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Comparing the FR-S to the 86 to the new BRZ as far as wheel torque at given vehicle speeds. I assumed that the car was in the ideal gear at each speed.





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2,000 to 2,800 foot pounds? Headed into electric car territory there.
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Prob, never... & prob best not to know
I know....
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I know....
Well around 50% or so.
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Ah, but it has more low-end torque *and* more top end! I'm very encouraged that peak power is still at 7000rpm, and that redline is still 7400, maybe 7500.
From the SoA press release: "The 2.4-liter naturally aspirated engine redlines at 7,000 RPM and delivers a 15-percent increase in torque."
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From the SoA press release: "The 2.4-liter naturally aspirated engine redlines at 7,000 RPM and delivers a 15-percent increase in torque."
But nobody believes that! There are at least 10 people that have said it is impossible and a misprint.
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Also...for @Tcoat: "Using design elements from the Subaru Global Platform, the chassis has gained rigidity through a reinforced chassis mounting system, sub-frame architecture and other connection points. Front lateral bending rigidity has been increased by 60-percent for the 2022 model to improve turn-in and response."
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2,000 to 2,800 foot pounds? Headed into electric car territory there.

The wonders of gear multiplication. 4.44 final drive and 3.63 1st gear is 16x. I’m assuming the gear ratios carry over to the new gen.

EVs usually have reduction gears, too. A model S has 9.73:1.


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