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Old 06-06-2016, 01:12 PM   #15
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I see myself as pretty good car buyer. I am not a typical Asian buyers demanding dumb numbers. I know some people will say just go negotiate, but I don't have time and energy to fight over mark ups
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Old 06-06-2016, 01:14 PM   #16
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I know a while back Ford claimed only 2000 were coming to the US
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I'm guessing you saw the one at the HRE open house (or if you didn't, it was probably the same one-it was black?) The 10k mark-up is complete bs, my buddy paid 3k over for his.
Ya the mark up will probably be pretty regional. Like any car there will be places with line ups for pre orders and other places where the cars will sit and gather dust in the back lot.
The laws of supply and demand still are in play.
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Old 06-06-2016, 01:22 PM   #18
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I see myself as pretty good car buyer. I am not a typical Asian buyers demanding dumb numbers. I know some people will say just go negotiate, but I don't have time and energy to fight over mark ups
I enjoy shopping but REALLY, REALLY hate car buying especially from the more branded larger dealers. Too many hierarchical bods with Mr Big hiding in an office deep in the Hornets nest!
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Old 06-06-2016, 01:25 PM   #19
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I know a while back Ford claimed only 2000 were coming to the US
I read somewhere that the last version totalled about 5000units I presume Worldwide.
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Could always be worse


(This was proven to be a dealership who wanted people to stop asking if they could buy a car which wasn't for sale)
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Old 06-06-2016, 02:00 PM   #21
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I read somewhere that the last version totalled about 5000units I presume Worldwide.
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I know a while back Ford claimed only 2000 were coming to the US
I think the most recent Golf R only sold around 2500 units in the States. I can't imagine actual demand for a 40K Focus being more than 3000 or so units. Ford probably doesn't have a production limit, per se, but will probably build as many as they anticipate having demand for.

Regardless, it's still silly to pay a 28% markup on a Ford that isn't the GT. It'd still be a little silly on the GT, but at least you'd truly have something special.
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I think the most recent Golf R only sold around 2500 units in the States. I can't imagine actual demand for a 40K Focus being more than 3000 or so units. Ford probably doesn't have a production limit, per se, but will probably build as many as they anticipate having demand for.

Regardless, it's still silly to pay a 28% markup on a Ford that isn't the GT. It'd still be a little silly on the GT, but at least you'd truly have something special.
Ford must have a minimum as they probably ordered a set number parts specific to the RS.
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Ford must have a minimum as they probably ordered a set number parts specific to the RS.
This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Insert my normal "There is a plan. There has been a plan for at least 2 years. They will build to that plan. No more. No less." rant here.
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Has the Clio R.S 16 made any news? Potential £38k (sterling) car!!
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You guys are all forgetting all the prestige that comes with being one of the first to own a FORD Focus rs!!! I'd gladly pay 80k if it mean't a larger Instagram following, more Facebook likes, and fist bumps from bros at my car meets.
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Old news. Anything "limited production" and in "high demand" will be marked up on the dealer level.

See: 2013 BRZ. S2000s when sold as new. 2008 GT-R. 2016 Cayman GT4. etc etc...
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Old news. Anything "limited production" and in "high demand" will be marked up on the dealer level.

See: 2013 BRZ. S2000s when sold as new. 2008 GT-R. 2016 Cayman GT4. etc etc...
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You're no fun.

Normally I wouldn't bother to even comment, but many people don't even realize this was what happened to prospective buyers of the BRZ early on in the 2013 model year cycle.

The price is great. If you don't like the markup, you just have to shop around and see what others offer. A $10k markup at a single dealer is not representative of what the actual sell price of the car is on the market.

I actually had considered whether I could buy a GT4 or not... but the markup made it an easy choice for me because it meant I could not negotiate reasonably with any Porsche dealer given that I have never owned a Porsche before.

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