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usp2333 · 05-09-2019, 11:47 PM

Hey there guys,

I've owned my FR-S for 8 or so months now and have reached a breaking point with picking out rims. For the past 6 of those 8 months, I've been searching "tire"lessly

(I hate myself for saying that) for what kind of XXR 527 I wanted to get. I'm pretty much sold on the XXR 527 18x8.75 +35 at this point. However, I sortof wish they had more "suck" than they do. I know that the 8.75 in +25 would be wayy to much poke, so is there another setup using 8.25 or something else that would maximize the "suck"? If I'd have to use spacers that's fine. Just so you know, I started out knowing absolutely nothing about sizing or anything. This forum has been my only source for knowledge

I'm open to having to buy coilovers (Tein Flex) but I'd really like to just stick with the Ebach springs for now. Thanks for your help!

EDIT: also yes, my car was stuck in this picture

RIP me

maslin · 05-09-2019, 11:57 PM

Nice pic!

8.75 +35 will fit in the fenders fine. You may want camber bolts for the front to drop it in a bit, the rear will be good.

Flip through this thread http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7535 Ignore the colors and designs, just look at the specs. Open a few in the size you want, find one with the ride height you have (or want to have) and decide what you think.

There’s no way to increase the offset of a wheel, spacers will decrease the offset, closer to zero/ more “poke”

My wheels are 17x8 +40, with a 5mm spacer in the back. 8.75 +35 will have 14.5mm more poke. My front camber is -1*40’, very conservative.

usp2333 · 05-10-2019, 12:03 AM

Sorry! (my novice showing here) That's what I meant. Getting a skinnier XXR rim but one that has LESS offset, then getting a spacer to make it flush. Thanks for the link!

maslin · 05-10-2019, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usp2333

Sorry! (my novice showing here) That's what I meant. Getting a skinnier rim but one that has LESS offset, then getting a spacer to make it flush. Thanks for the link!

No problem! I wouldn’t get the wrong wheel to run spacers on purpose. If you have the choice when buying, I would get something that sits how you like in the front, then either deal with a little less flush in the back, or run a small space to even it out.

The rear is quite a bit wider than the front in hub to fender relations.

evomike · 05-10-2019, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usp2333

Sorry! (my novice showing here) That's what I meant. Getting a skinnier XXR rim but one that has LESS offset, then getting a spacer to make it flush. Thanks for the link!

why run a spacer when you can just buy a wheel with the correct offset to fit how you would like?

Vital · 05-10-2019, 11:14 AM

If you want more suck why not get 18x8 +42? there is no 18x8.25 there is a 17x8.25 +35. Personally, id go for the 18x8 +42 or 17x8.25 +35 which will give you a nice flush fitment if you get Eibach springs.

usp2333 · 05-10-2019, 06:59 PM

Thanks for the feedback! I ended up purchasing 527s in 18x8.75. I do have a final question. Since I'm basically all about looks, I'm looking for a tire that has a simi-slick look. My favorite tires are the NITTO NT01/05 but I can't really afford them, especially knowing how hard I drive. Does anyone know of a tire that looks similar? (smooth curve from sidewall to tread)? Thanks again!

VIP BRZ · 05-10-2019, 07:12 PM

The opposite to "poke" is "tuck" lol, can we please stop saying suck?

eastendraceshop · 05-10-2019, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usp2333

Thanks for the feedback! I ended up purchasing 527s in 18x8.75. I do have a final question. Since I'm basically all about looks, I'm looking for a tire that has a simi-slick look. My favorite tires are the NITTO NT01/05 but I can't really afford them, especially knowing how hard I drive. Does anyone know of a tire that looks similar? (smooth curve from sidewall to tread)? Thanks again!

Federal RS-R tires will give you a "semi-slick" look, kind of... Plus, they GRIP very nicely and are affordable! If you'd like a set, feel free to shoot me a PM for pricing.

-Sam

usp2333 · 05-10-2019, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eastendraceshop

Federal RS-R tires will give you a "semi-slick" look, kind of... Plus, they GRIP very nicely and are affordable! If you'd like a set, feel free to shoot me a PM for pricing.

-Sam

That looks good! What about the Firestone Firehawk? Good? Bad?

And yes we could... But "suck" sounds way more cool

evomike · 05-11-2019, 01:10 AM

One thing about the federals is they’re super loud

JD001 · 05-11-2019, 04:23 AM

Looks like you have a tendency to drive 'off road'.. I suggest some nice 16inch rally wheels with gravel spec tyres.. oh and raise the height.. don't want to wreck your sump...

why? · 05-11-2019, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD001

Looks like you have a tendency to drive 'off road'.. I suggest some nice 16inch rally wheels with gravel spec tyres.. oh and raise the height.. don't want to wreck your sump...

Volk's 15" te37 rally wheels fit over our brakes, I bet they'll tuck quite nicely.

Feistyfrog · 05-11-2019, 03:27 PM

I have the Indy 500 and they are very good looking, got a lot of grip on dry (not so much on wet) and they are really cheap. The best all around value for the price IMO.

Some people tend to overlook the design of tires for the overall apperance of the car. I used to love the performance of my Coopers on my previous car, but they were ugly as hell, and it was bothering me everytime I looked at the car.

05-09-2019, 11:47 PM	#1
usp2333 Member Join Date: May 2018 Drives: MT 2013 FR-S Blue Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Most "suck" setup Hey there guys, I've owned my FR-S for 8 or so months now and have reached a breaking point with picking out rims. For the past 6 of those 8 months, I've been searching "tire"lessly (I hate myself for saying that) for what kind of XXR 527 I wanted to get. I'm pretty much sold on the XXR 527 18x8.75 +35 at this point. However, I sortof wish they had more "suck" than they do. I know that the 8.75 in +25 would be wayy to much poke, so is there another setup using 8.25 or something else that would maximize the "suck"? If I'd have to use spacers that's fine. Just so you know, I started out knowing absolutely nothing about sizing or anything. This forum has been my only source for knowledge I'm open to having to buy coilovers (Tein Flex) but I'd really like to just stick with the Ebach springs for now. Thanks for your help! EDIT: also yes, my car was stuck in this picture RIP me Attached Images

05-09-2019, 11:57 PM	#2
maslin Benz Tech Join Date: Dec 2018 Drives: 2017 BRZ Premium Location: Oregon Posts: 580 Thanks: 363 Thanked 564 Times in 309 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Nice pic! 8.75 +35 will fit in the fenders fine. You may want camber bolts for the front to drop it in a bit, the rear will be good. Flip through this thread http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7535 Ignore the colors and designs, just look at the specs. Open a few in the size you want, find one with the ride height you have (or want to have) and decide what you think. There’s no way to increase the offset of a wheel, spacers will decrease the offset, closer to zero/ more “poke” My wheels are 17x8 +40, with a 5mm spacer in the back. 8.75 +35 will have 14.5mm more poke. My front camber is -1*40’, very conservative. Attached Images

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05-10-2019, 12:03 AM	#3
usp2333 Member Join Date: May 2018 Drives: MT 2013 FR-S Blue Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sorry! (my novice showing here) That's what I meant. Getting a skinnier XXR rim but one that has LESS offset, then getting a spacer to make it flush. Thanks for the link!

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Vital Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Drives: 2015 BRZ Location: Texas Posts: 693 Thanks: 213 Thanked 336 Times in 254 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If you want more suck why not get 18x8 +42? there is no 18x8.25 there is a 17x8.25 +35. Personally, id go for the 18x8 +42 or 17x8.25 +35 which will give you a nice flush fitment if you get Eibach springs.

05-10-2019, 06:59 PM	#7
usp2333 Member Join Date: May 2018 Drives: MT 2013 FR-S Blue Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks for the feedback! I ended up purchasing 527s in 18x8.75. I do have a final question. Since I'm basically all about looks, I'm looking for a tire that has a simi-slick look. My favorite tires are the NITTO NT01/05 but I can't really afford them, especially knowing how hard I drive. Does anyone know of a tire that looks similar? (smooth curve from sidewall to tread)? Thanks again!

05-10-2019, 07:12 PM	#8
VIP BRZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Location: CA - San Fernando Valley Posts: 491 Thanks: 242 Thanked 333 Times in 179 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The opposite to "poke" is "tuck" lol, can we please stop saying suck?

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JD001 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Drives: Subaru BRZ Location: UK Posts: 6,118 Thanks: 7,774 Thanked 6,318 Times in 3,544 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Looks like you have a tendency to drive 'off road'.. I suggest some nice 16inch rally wheels with gravel spec tyres.. oh and raise the height.. don't want to wreck your sump...

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Feistyfrog Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Drives: Toyota 86 2019 Location: Montréal Posts: 51 Thanks: 244 Thanked 48 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have the Indy 500 and they are very good looking, got a lot of grip on dry (not so much on wet) and they are really cheap. The best all around value for the price IMO. Some people tend to overlook the design of tires for the overall apperance of the car. I used to love the performance of my Coopers on my previous car, but they were ugly as hell, and it was bothering me everytime I looked at the car.

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