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Are these 16x7+35 Sparco Terra?
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The first comment I get from most people who rides in my car is that my BRZ rides way better than the last brz/frs/86 they had been in. Seeing how I have used both the TRD Rally Spring & Strut combo as well as the TRD Rally Spring with SACHS performance package struts. I can say both are great for daily driving on public roads. Over all ride quality and performance feels better than both standard and performance package suspension. The TRD rally struts are a better package than stock for all applications. The only characteristic that I felt I wanted to improve was that it didn't instantly settle after a big bump. It road over small stuff like nothing, but a bigger bump that would cause a chassis bounce would result in a small rebound before settling. I suspect this is the tradeoff when you have a strut designed for both tarmac and gravel. Shortly after getting my BRZ I realized how good the SACHS actually were on the performance package. The car felt so much better than it had ever felt with the standard suspension. I opted to install just the TRD springs on a set of SACHS struts instead of the TRD Rally ones. I am happy with the results. Overall I think the SACHS are a better match for daily, backroads, autocross, and track. I don't expect them to be as good offroad, but I don't think they would be that bad either. If you are in an area with a good mix of dirt and tarmac then get the TRD Struts. If you drive mostly tarmac then the SACHS or possibly the Bilstein B6's are the way to go. |
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From a handling point of view I am pleasantly surprised. It does lean a bit more and its not as sharp during transitions but the grip is there. With better wheels, tyres and some more rear camber I could imagine enjoying it on a canyon style run even. For reference beyond the TRD springs and shocks I have Pedders offset strut tops, whiteline camber bolts, Racerx adjustable rear upper control arms and the MCA traction brackets. I also swapped out the whiteline rear sway bar bushings for the stock units. My alignment is about 1.5deg camber in the front and 1deg in the rear with 0 toe all around. I think with any toe in at the rear it would feel a bit too understeery. I hope my waffling on gives you some idea ![]()
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This is not great, right? It would be expected that a rally suspension has more travel. Buut, this could also mean that trd rally springs could fit on Sachs without giving unequal riide height change front to rear. Am I right?
Also: For those saying that this cannot be a good suspension for hybrid rallying because of the price: maybe this isn't very expensive, but it doesn't have any adjustments. So I am pretty sure the damping tune is spot on for the springs. Last edited by AndMsc; 09-19-2021 at 02:37 PM. |
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(if you raise the car too much with springs and don't have enough droop travel, that is bad too. that's why we're sticking with 15mm lift for our own RCE Rally springs). - Andrew |
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If you're interested in a proper rally setup have a look at the below link. This bloke has turned his 86 into quite the rallycross car with a lot of DIY work. Including long travel suspension.
https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/fo.../172073/page1/
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It's been a little over 3 years since I originally installed the TRD rally suspension. I stopped using the TRD Rally dampers after I totaled my FRS. I wasn't happy with the rear of the car, it felt like it bounced off of bumps instead of soaking them up with the TRD rally dampers. I picked up a 2019 Series Grey and was very impressed by the performance package SACHS which had much better valving. So I opted to pair the TRD Rally Springs with the SACHS and have been extremely happy with the car since. I recently got to dyno test the rears, and they looked to have some major issues. I think they were bad from the factory and had massive rebound cavitation. This explains why they would bounce off of bumps, as the rebound was basically non-existant. I may not be on these springs much longer, as plans are in the works on getting some propper tarmac coilovers. Updates on those a bit later. Last edited by abec; 09-11-2022 at 06:31 AM. |
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As a current RCE customer about to change to an alternative suspension for a trip to Alaska, did you ever end up making a rally suspension? I don't see it on your website. |
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