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I have to wonder how many takes they have to do to get some of the marketing bullsh** statements that say nothing but sound so "intelligent" in the can.
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I would love to see a model where car manufacturers, car manufacturer groups or battery manufacturers like Panasonic own the batteries. Only the car is purchased and the battery is bought/rented/leased as a separate purchase or included, and it could be an option, but regardless, a person basically can buy new shells and just continually swap modular batteries. Going on a camping trip or needing to tow a boat in your EV truck, well, swap in the premium/long range battery for the day or weekend, maybe for a surcharge or the standard or economy battery. Why carry a big battery around all the time? The manufacturer can slow-charge the batteries for better longevity. They can recycle the batteries or transition them to grid storage instead of doing a buy-back/tade-in program. Tesla moved away from swapping because of lack of interest, but that was probably because luxury car buyers have homes and garages to charge, and because Tesla never set up a system for swapping that removed liability like Niro. Tesla now has an integrated battery that is part of the structure, which they say saved weight, so this could be good for many buyers, but I see swapping as the ideal model for the masses.
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I agree with @Ohio Enthusiast it's a good idea in theory but probably not practical in the long run. Since I have a preorder for a Lyriq AWD I've been playing around with routes as most of the 3rd party route planning software has the Lyriq in it now. A trip we plan to take next week that is a little over 500 miles, would require us to leave at 90%, stop once for a recharge of 30 minutes and still arrive with what I consider a safe margin of charge. That's practical to me.
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-Gas prices pissing you off? Spend a huge upfront cost for an EV and its charging. you'll save in the long run..(have to reach the break even point first before you actually see savings) -EV not practical enough for your road trips and you dont have a second car? Spend money and rent a car! -EV road trip takes longer than normal? Spend money for a hotel if you have to stay overnight to make it work! -Battery charging annoys you? just swap out the batteries!!! you cant practially do it yourself so you likely have to spend money at a swap station to swap it out! |
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Supercharging and public charging is free for some and costs almost as much as filling up with gas for others, which is why most charge at home because it is cheaper. I think battery swapping will be fairly cheap for people who don’t have the means to recharge at home or who need a swap for a long trip or day of towing their boat to the lake. It would be no different than heading to the gas station, but probably faster than filling up a large tank on a truck. Battery swapping makes a lot of sense for semis. https://www.greencarreports.com/news...-free-in-china Quote:
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Passenger car owner are not going to want to sacrifice the space needed for swappable. Besides I would hate digging through my junk drawer for a good replacement battery all the time.
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Now things are going back to that beginning. Imagine where we would be with battery tech by now if it had progressed alongside ICE for the last 150 years or so! https://www.energy.gov/articles/history-electric-car
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As mentioned a built in battery can be spread out. A removable has to be one or two easily accessible units with all the connectors, tracks, restraints and other odds and ends required to make secure but still easy to swap. That will take up space. Sure it can be incorporated into the design but it is still "lost" space all the same.
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