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Old 09-24-2014, 04:09 PM   #57
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Oops. I always switch them.
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The valving on both is apparently the same, which is a disappointment.

The difference is the B8 has less droop travel, which is not desirable. Not a big deal, but there is no advantage to that.

The B8 "probably" has a shorter internal bumpstop for the fronts, which is nice. In the end for a mild drop spring like our RCE Yellows the B6 is probably the better fit. For a spring that's a little lower and softer up front, the B8 might work better.

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Honestly, from my research it seems to be about what your priorities are. If you want a coilover that is both comfortable on the street and decent on the track, you'll want KW V3's or Eibach Multi-Pro R2's, which are in the 2-3k range. However they make sacrifices for the street and are a bit soft on the track. They can't be re-valved from the factory for more aggressive spring options.

If you want pure track performance with no regard to street comfort, it seems Fortune Auto 510's with Swift springs will do you good, as they are the only coils I have found for <$4000 that can be custom re-valved to match your spring rate.
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Old 11-06-2014, 07:56 PM   #60
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I am pretty happy with my FEAL 441s at $1350 - swift springs - us based - Odi is a decent guy.

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Not sure if you are still engaged with this thread any longer, but one question I don't see asked or answered is who is going to do the install? You? Tire shop? Some bro-canic of yours? What cha' got there? You will need to make sure that is in your budget.

Personally, I just put on a set of B6s and RCE Yellow springs(rather, paid someone to install) and I could not be more happy with this setup. I have read other posts claiming "better daily driving than stock." Didn't believe it... Well guess what? It's better than stock. I was not directly after a lowered look, it just kinda comes with the deal, looks great. So far on any more spirited runs I feel like I have way better connection to the car and better control.

This setup will run you in the neighborhood of $1100-$1200, plus install - local mileage will vary, count on $250-$400 unless you are a DIY sort.

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Not sure if you are still engaged with this thread any longer, but one question I don't see asked or answered is who is going to do the install? You? Tire shop? Some bro-canic of yours? What cha' got there? You will need to make sure that is in your budget.

Personally, I just put on a set of B6s and RCE Yellow springs(rather, paid someone to install) and I could not be more happy with this setup. I have read other posts claiming "better daily driving than stock." Didn't believe it... Well guess what? It's better than stock. I was not directly after a lowered look, it just kinda comes with the deal, looks great. So far on any more spirited runs I feel like I have way better connection to the car and better control.

This setup will run you in the neighborhood of $1100-$1200, plus install - local mileage will vary, count on $250-$400 unless you are a DIY sort.

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This is almost certainly what I'll end up doing. stiffer springs and an appropriate strut configuration.

I could be remembering wrong, but RCE used to sell a GTWorx/Blistein struts bundle with their yellow springs for the WRX/STi. I've not seen a similar offering for the 86 on their site.
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My FRS is my daily driver and canyon runner. This is what i did.

TRD Lowering springs
TRD Anti-sway bars
Bilstein B-6 Shocks (OEM replacements recommended for the TRD lowering springs)

Whiteline bushings
KCA416 Camber adjusting bolts
KSR210 Steering- rack & pinion,
KDT926 Gearbox- positive shift kit
KDT925 Differential- mount in cradle & support outrigger insert bushings
KDT922 Rear Crossmember- mount insert bushings

Cusco Power Braces
Front Tower Bar (Type ALC OS)
Front Lower Control Arms
Front Crossmember bar (Type ll)
Rear Crossmember bar

I did this earlier this year and the car has improved in handling, steering and acceleration. If this goes over $1500 (I forgot what I paid), save more money and do this package. You won't regret it. It is well worth it.
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Old 11-09-2014, 09:42 PM   #64
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This is almost certainly what I'll end up doing. stiffer springs and an appropriate strut configuration.

I could be remembering wrong, but RCE used to sell a GTWorx/Blistein struts bundle with their yellow springs for the WRX/STi. I've not seen a similar offering for the 86 on their site.
We do sell a custom Bilstein for GR/GH Impreza matched to our RCE Yellows and Blacks for that car but we do not offer that for the BRZ or FRS. It's awesome and it's something we think about doing. We can assist with a custom build through Bilstein for these cars, but we don't have a mass produced thing set up so it will be the normal Bilstein revalve pricing which is roughly 100 bucks a corner + shipping.

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Excuse my dumbness about struts, but does "re-valving" mean that the strut is adjusted for the amount of travel that the spring permits?
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No sure if you are still looking for a lowering option, but if you are we are having a CRAZY deal on a set of HKS Hypermax IV GT Coilovers.
Normal MSPR $2394.00 USD shipped.

With my clearance pricing I can have them to your door for $1594.00 thats an $800.00 saving. Let me know if I can help you out!
Are these going to be available for the holidays coming up?
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Excuse my dumbness about struts, but does "re-valving" mean that the strut is adjusted for the amount of travel that the spring permits?
It means that the compression and rebound (extension) force values are changed to better match a change in spring rate.

And adjustable shock with a knob will let you change these values too, but you usually don't have the same precision with the adjustments that way. Most of the time you have 1 knob and either change just rebound, or both rebound and compression together. Both are compromises. Really good shocks will add more knobs and give you more control. But cost some money.

Bilsteins are great shocks internally in terms of how they're built, but most of their stuff do not have any knobs to turn. So if you want to make adjustments, a revalve is in order. BUT off the shelf though they'll still do really well with most of the springs out there. A revalve would just make them more better.

There's not much you can do to make up for a drop on standard fixed perch struts other than trim the bumpstops or use shorter ones. You're still limited because you need SOME bumpstop.

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