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Old 06-13-2014, 07:01 PM   #113
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speaking of functional splitters
FT-86 SpeedFactory Front Splitter has been received and installed. I've also received my Cusco Accelerator pedal with the same shipment. It was a really straightforward installation, thanks again @FT-86 SpeedFactory for good quality product and great communication



and now on the car



with my street tires and wheels since I will be driving to a track event this weekend I cannot wait to test this splitter at track and combine that with the Driveway Labs diffuser I recently ordered @Wonderbar




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What material is that made from?
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What material is that made from?
You can see more detail about the material on this thread (first Page)
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I've finally added supporting rods for the front splitter and installed the Driveway Labs V1 diffuser, I can't wait to test them next week





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I've finally added supporting rods for the front splitter and installed the Driveway Labs V1 diffuser, I can't wait to test them next week





Do you have the rod's attached to something solid behind the bumper? Looking real nice.
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Do you have the rod's attached to something solid behind the bumper? Looking real nice.
Thanks, the supporting rods are optional there are more than 10 rivet nuts holding the splitter underneath the car and I ran off the track once nothing happened to the splitter or the bumper ..I've only added the rods for the added safety and adjustability of the angle
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Thanks, the supporting rods are optional there are more than 10 rivet nuts holding the splitter underneath the car and I ran off the track once nothing happened to the splitter or the bumper ..I've only added the rods for the added safety and adjustability of the angle
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The supporting rods should really be attached to bumper beam, not the bumper cover. The splitter can still pull the bumper down like it can without the rods.


EDIT - I saw that @eric6 mentioned it in the splitter thread. Sorry to add on.
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The supporting rods should really be attached to bumper beam, not the bumper cover. The splitter can still pull the bumper down like it can without the rods.


EDIT - I saw that @eric6 mentioned it in the splitter thread. Sorry to add on.
Do you have the same front splitter? I'm not sure how the splitter can pull down the bumper without any rods since they are not connected to each other without a rod and like I said it's been track tested and even after I left the car in the dust it was holding strong ..
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Do you have the same front splitter? I'm not sure how the splitter can pull down the bumper without any rods since they are not connected to each other without a rod and like I said it's been track tested and even after I left the car in the dust it was holding strong ..
I do not have the splitter yet as I am waiting for the race version with the tie rods.

The splitter is flexible (albeit very slightly). Simply driving on the highway at 80 causes flex in the splitter, and since it is attached to the bottom of the bumper (which...it is), it pulls on the bumper. I've seen it. Others have mentioned it as well. This is why they are coming out with the tie rods.

But let's gloss over that and say that it isn't connected to the bumper cover with plastic clips:

Bumper cover = flexible
Splitter = flexible
Mounting one flexible item to another flexible item =/= rigidity

All I was trying to point out is that the tie rods should be mounted to the bumper beam, or something else that doesn't easily flex. Its the same thing Eric mentioned in the other thread.
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I do not have the splitter yet as I am waiting for the race version with the tie rods.

The splitter is flexible (albeit very slightly). Simply driving on the highway at 80 causes flex in the splitter, and since it is attached to the bottom of the bumper (which...it is), it pulls on the bumper. I've seen it. Others have mentioned it as well. This is why they are coming out with the tie rods.

But let's gloss over that and say that it isn't connected to the bumper cover with plastic clips:

Bumper cover = flexible
Splitter = flexible
Mounting one flexible item to another flexible item =/= rigidity

All I was trying to point out is that the tie rods should be mounted to the bumper beam, or something else that doesn't easily flex. Its the same thing Eric mentioned in the other thread.
I've never said the support rods connected to the bumper is the best option or superior to connecting to the bumper beam I figured it still wouldn't hurt to place some sort of support rods until they release the upgrade kit, it's better than nothing right?

well in my experience even without the tie rods I didn't have any issues at track and even after running off the track what more evidence are you looking for? did you also see the video they posted ? at 100 mph the splitter was stable

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I have had it into the triple digits multiple times, the splitter is held in very firmly. If it's coming off, your bumper is coming off. It has been curbed, bumped, stood on, and driven at high rates of speed. Here is a video of the splitter in action at 100 MPH.
and one thing to mention, you don't actually mount the rivet nuts into the bumper directly but rather into the holes that goes through the bumper and hard plastic behind it, if you installed it yourself you would know what I am talking about...

you also know the fact the race version also adds fins/vanes that also creates additonal down force, right? I am willing to bet you the splitter (even without the rods) can easily handle 23 lbs of downforce with no problem that still doesn't mean additional support/safety would hurt though, it's always good to have added support and that's the reason why I added my own option even before the upgrade
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What material is that made from?
In for that as well.

Is it flexible/mouldable?
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In for that as well.

Is it flexible/mouldable?
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Splitter is water jet cut (same process for cutting metal, that's how hard it is) from a proprietary plastic. It is stronger and lighter than ABS and very durable.
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I've provided the link but let me do it again
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65207
I read that entire thread, and it doesn't say what it's made from.

"proprietary plastic" is not an actual material last time I checked.

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I do not have the splitter yet as I am waiting for the race version with the tie rods.

The splitter is flexible (albeit very slightly). Simply driving on the highway at 80 causes flex in the splitter, and since it is attached to the bottom of the bumper (which...it is), it pulls on the bumper. I've seen it. Others have mentioned it as well. This is why they are coming out with the tie rods.

But let's gloss over that and say that it isn't connected to the bumper cover with plastic clips:

Bumper cover = flexible
Splitter = flexible
Mounting one flexible item to another flexible item =/= rigidity

All I was trying to point out is that the tie rods should be mounted to the bumper beam, or something else that doesn't easily flex. Its the same thing Eric mentioned in the other thread.
This has always been my major gripe with front splitters regardless of how badly I want one
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