FR-S vs S2000

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Marrk

Mistaking the s2k for a kind of Miata is a common error. (See Rjtrout2000.) You've never owned an s2k. Am I right?

ive never owned one but jumping to conclusions is a more common error. i never said that the s2k is a kind of miata. im saying that its more like a miata than an elise

[Marrk]

Originally Posted by fatoni

ive never owned one but jumping to conclusions is a more common error. i never said that the s2k is a kind of miata. im saying that its more like a miata than an elise

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Marrk

fine enlighten me. im assuming based on you calling me out for having owned a car in the conversation that you have owned an s2000, miata and an elise. to tell me from your personal experience, what makes a 2800lb fr convertible less like a 2400lb fr convertible and more like 1900lb mr borderline supercar?

[cassidy0998]

Originally Posted by fatoni

fine enlighten me. im assuming based on you calling me out for having owned a car in the conversation that you have owned an s2000, miata and an elise. to tell me from your personal experience, what makes a 2800lb fr convertible less like a 2400lb fr convertible and more like 1900lb mr borderline supercar?

Agreed. The S2000 is much more like a Miata than an Elise. There's absolutely no reason what-so-ever to say otherwise.

[86'd]

Originally Posted by fatoni

fine enlighten me. im assuming based on you calling me out for having owned a car in the conversation that you have owned an s2000, miata and an elise. to tell me from your personal experience, what makes a 2800lb fr convertible less like a 2400lb fr convertible and more like 1900lb mr borderline supercar?

Since I made the initial statement, I was referring to the rawness and more compromises that owning a car like the S2000 is as compared to a Miata.

You can get a slower, optioned out automatic Grand Touring Miata, but there aren't any options on an S2000, well except for a hardtop and maybe a spoiler.

If I were to say it over, I'd say that owning an S2000 is one step closer to
an Elise than a Miata. Just look at the hp/lbs of each car, combined with each car's philosophy.

[rio7]

want to add some more comments about an s2000, a car of its kind:

the true value of a s2000 lies into the unique handling of it

the engine that's mounted in the front-mid position realizes the perfect 50/50 weight distribution

just a few minutes behind the wheel, you'll forget that you are driving a roaster

plus the car sits on a compact double wheel-wishbone suspension system

it didn't have many modern gadgets used in the modern technology today which makes it very light weight

"it's a classic piece of driving machinery"

Originally Posted by 86'd

Since I made the initial statement, I was referring to the rawness and more compromises that owning a car like the S2000 is as compared to a Miata.

You can get a slower, optioned out automatic Grand Touring Miata, but there aren't any options on an S2000, well except for a hardtop and maybe a spoiler.

If I were to say it over, I'd say that owning an S2000 is one step closer to
an Elise than a Miata. Just look at the hp/lbs of each car, combined with each car's philosophy.

[random]

Originally Posted by rio7

want to add some more comments about an s2000, a car of its kind:

the true value of a s2000 lies into the unique handling of it

the engine that's mounted in the front-mid position realizes the perfect 50/50 weight distribution

just a few minutes behind the wheel, you'll forget that you are driving a roaster

plus the car sits on a compact double wheel-wishbone suspension system

it didn't have many modern gadgets used in the modern technology today which makes it very light weight

"it's a classic piece of driving machinery"

Sounds like you pulled these statements from some car magazine, which, taken out of context, is pretty meaningless. Because for example, all it does is raise more debatable questions. (Please, I hope no ones tries answer these questions. I only list them for purpose of illustrating how meaningless the previous post is.)

What is unique about its handling?

Why is 50/50 the perfect weight distribution? What if the car's engine was mid-mounted?

You'll quickly realize you're in a roadster when the top is down. Then what?

If a car doesn't have a compact double wheel-wishbone suspension, then what? (Note: the Porsche 911, most BMWs, and many other cars all use a MacPherson strut type of suspension.)

Modern gadgets -- of course it doesn't have any. The S2000 came out over 10 years ago.

[FT-86Mike]

Well My girl will be getting the S2k next month, And I might get the BRZ. I guess I cant go wronw with neither. I love the S2K engine, but everything else I love the BRZ.

[colatkitty]

I just sold my beloved S2k in preparation to pick up BRZ once it comes out. Hope I made the right decision.

[ft86Fan]

Originally Posted by colatkitty

I just sold my beloved S2k in preparation to pick up BRZ once it comes out. Hope I made the right decision.

I did too. Don't worry, I think its the right decision.

[Mike]

Originally Posted by colatkitty

I just sold my beloved S2k in preparation to pick up BRZ once it comes out. Hope I made the right decision.

Originally Posted by ft86Fan

I did too. Don't worry, I think its the right decision.

Colatkitty's S2k is/was the fastest privateer n/a s2k track car on the west coast...

Either way, I'll be picking up a BRZ as well.

[MADANT15]

Originally Posted by Mike

Colatkitty's S2k is/was the fastest privateer n/a s2k track car on the west coast...

Either way, I'll be picking up a BRZ as well.

It seems as though everyone is trading their s2k challenge car for an FRS/BRZ... I plan on keeping the s2k for the track but picking up a brz limited as my DD.

[blur]

Originally Posted by Mike

Colatkitty's S2k is/was the fastest privateer n/a s2k track car on the west coast...

Pics? Specs? Sounds like a hell of a car...

[vang]

Originally Posted by FT-86Mike

Well My girl will be getting the S2k next month, And I might get the BRZ. I guess I cant go wronw with neither. I love the S2K engine, but everything else I love the BRZ.

Pretty funny how you love everything about the BRZ before driving it and touching it. Let me guess, you've never been in an S2000 before either, yet you just know you won't like it.

I think everyone moving from the S2000 to the FT86/BRZ is NOT necessarily expecting a better car, just something newer to play with that will remind them of the S2000. I'm confident that this budget sports coupe will not rival the S2000 in terms of performance numbers (obviously, we're talking flagship vs entry sports car). However, it should be a fun car for ex-S2000 owners to try out.