3S-GE BEAMS swap

[Toxicmilk45]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2fhRgMXve0"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2fhRgMXve0[/ame]

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by why?

I guess it depends on what you are looking for. For me I just would like something higher revving, or at least the ability to be higher revving. They basically made this block a time bomb if you try and rev it over 8200 for any length of time.

But it is not either company's best effort, which is kind of sad.

I found one you could love.

I’m sure that if you destroked the FA20, built and ported the heads, lowered the compression, added a turbo and ran e85 that there would be lots of revs to be had. You can’t really blame Toyota or Subaru for only making a 200hp 7400 rpm motor on a $25k car budget.

[why?]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

I found one you could love.

I’m sure that if you destroked the FA20, built and ported the heads, lowered the compression, added a turbo and ran e85 that there would be lots of revs to be had. You can’t really blame Toyota or Subaru for only making a 200hp 7400 rpm motor on a $25k car budget.

lol, that engine is definitely cool. And while you do have a point they have sti engines that easily rev over 8000+ rpms. You are probably right in that it was a budget thing that the cheaped out on the oiling system.

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

I found one you could love.

I’m sure that if you destroked the FA20, built and ported the heads, lowered the compression, added a turbo and ran e85 that there would be lots of revs to be had. You can’t really blame Toyota or Subaru for only making a 200hp 7400 rpm motor on a $25k car budget.

There's something seriously wrong with that engine.
That turbo on that engine at 42psi should be making 600whp at half the RPM.
I would believe 600 whp at 12,000 rpm at <12psi...

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

There's something seriously wrong with that engine.
That turbo on that engine at 42psi should be making 600whp at half the RPM.
I would believe 600 whp at 12,000 rpm at <12psi...

I don’t know how destroked it is. Maybe it is a 1.9, maybe a 1.8, maybe a 1.6. They mention the torque being flat after 6k, so at 3k maybe it is barely getting the turbo moving and only at 5psi. Then 4k it is at 12psi and 5k 27psi and 6k 42psi. Something a little more exponential looking, which would make sense for a small displacement engine and a large turbo.

It may be conservatively tuned considering the uncharted territory too.

[Tokay444]

Then my next question is, what's the point?
There are far more proven, arguably more reliable, and cost effective ways to make 600 wheel.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

Then my next question is, what's the point?
There are far more proven, arguably more reliable, and cost effective ways to make 600 wheel.

The video kinda states they are leaders in race applications of Subarus, and this was their new project. I'm guessing they wanted to test a concept. Why? Perhaps for creating products to sell. Perhaps to test viability for racing. It is what teams and companies do.

Ask Synergy why they sell a 12k rpm redline 2.5L V8 that only has 405hp for like $45k. There are far more proven, arguably more reliable, and cost effective ways to make 405 hp.

http://www.synergypower.co.nz

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

The video kinda states they are leaders in race applications of Subarus, and this was their new project. I'm guessing they wanted to test a concept. Why? Perhaps for creating products to sell. Perhaps to test viability for racing. It is what teams and companies do.

Ask Synergy why they sell a 12k rpm redline 2.5L V8 that only has 405hp for like $45k. There are far more proven, arguably more reliable, and cost effective ways to make 405 hp.

http://www.synergypower.co.nz

I'd actually prefer the Synergy V8 at 405hp.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

I'd actually prefer the Synergy V8 at 405hp.

I would prefer the Synergy motor too, but you noticed I repeated your quote for a reason. The point is that there is a market and an application for motors with these characteristics, kind of similar to a NASCAR vs F1 argument.

Another example would be my Kawi 636 vs my Ducati 796; the Kawi made 130hp and 45tq, the Ducati 90hp and 55tq; the Kawi's rev limiter is 15k and the Duc's is at 8.5k. The Kawi has two extra cylinders, twelve extra valves, but the benefit of those revs is very noticeable and usable.

As the video states, the motor has a flat torque curve from 6k on. That is potentially 4k to 6k usable rpms with the same torque output.

[Tokay444]

I'm still not impressed.

[86p0wa]

Well, 86 swap here I come

[CxG]

has this swap only been done with the haltech? Has this been done to keep stock gauge cluster and read obd2 ready?

[Kenny_LongWrench]

This may be of help.

https://www.puristmod.com/collection...om/electronics

[CxG]

Originally Posted by Kenny_LongWrench

This may be of help.

https://www.puristmod.com/collection...om/electronics

been there checked that but I'm not a tuner so I don't know, what am I supposed to buy the aem patch harness and the haltech so it'll ready obd2 ready and pass and obd2 inpsection?