Report: Subaru says BRZ pricing about $25000, and mentions Turbo BRZ coming

[fernan2]

Originally Posted by YaX

Well, I had a friend that pre-ordered a Saturn Sky. As soon as the GXP came out, he traded it in for it. I think the Saturn Sky is stupid car and I was able to drive it, but the point is, I'm not going to make that mistake.

I'm waiting to make damn sure they don't come out with an STi before buying my BRZ. I don't care how long the line is to get one. I'm getting the car I want.

Amen.... +1

[A Gomez]

Originally Posted by tachi1247

Brz sales aren't going to have a significant effect on wrx sales. The cars are too different to cannibalize each other that much. Besides whatever sales the wrx loses to the brz it will more than make up for in peple who come into the dealer to look at a brz and realize it is just too impractical for them and leave with a similarly priced wrx.

Your original question about th ideal price doesn't have an answer. Ideal price for who? Ideal for me is they sell the car for 15k and take a loss like they do on the lfa but that isn't going to happen.

After toyota decided to build a rwd coupe the first thing that was determined was how much it was going to cost. Every decision about the car after that was made to hit that number. When you look at other cars that areavailable for that price range, the frs provides good value.

It will canibalize wrx sales, but not much, because there will be only 500 cars sold this year in the US. The next new car of Subaru, Crosstrek, is said to canibalize its siblings.

Regarding the cost, I think you are wrong. Toyota could have made a rwd coupe cheaper, but they decided not. In my opinion, they over engineered. Original AE86 was a cheap fun. FT86 is something much more "sophisticated" (or they want us to believe so). I am not really as sophisticated or peculiar about what is fun as most of people on this forum, so would have been happy to buy something less sophisticated, a bit heavier and more affordable. I am not paying $25K big for a Toyota/Scion car, but if BRZ is only a few hundred bucks away, I am at least back to the negotiation table.

[Spaceywilly]

^it's 500 per month.

I don't think Subaru has to worry about cannibalizing sales because they already sell every car that they make (well, not the Tribeca). There may be some people who go in to buy a BRZ and end up with a WRX, or go in to buy a Forester and end up in an XV, but Subaru will still make money off them and they will still have no problem selling the BRZ or Forester to someone else.

[wu_dot_com]

Originally Posted by Bang Uchiha

Looks like Toyota "shot themselves in the foot" by not offering the GT-86 state side and pricing the Scion if it were a Toyota.

Scion being looked at and marketed as a lower brand needing CPR, Toyota wanted to propel Scion sales too much. But the price is way too close to the BRZ, that most will opt of the BRZ because of options- HID, limited trim etc.

I would've bought the 86 over the BRZ but not the FRS over the BRZ. I'm probably not alone. ( 86>BRZ>FRS )

im with you right there. its a branding tragidy. a major part of the inital scuess for the 86 in Japan is due to the nostalgic felling of owning a peoples race car of the past.

i suspect the only reason why it was branded a scion here in NA is due to toyota's internal political play and nothing more.

[Draco-REX]

Originally Posted by wu_dot_com

im with you right there. its a branding tragidy. a major part of the inital scuess for the 86 in Japan is due to the nostalgic felling of owning a peoples race car of the past.

i suspect the only reason why it was branded a scion here in NA is due to toyota's internal political play and nothing more.

This. Toyota may make boring cars, but they sell a LOT of boring cars. They are not going to mess with their formula. Best to put a car that's kind of different in with the other misfits. Hence, Scion.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by ZetaVI

I wonder where they got the news that a turbo is coming.

Originally Posted by engee

this is great news! kinda curious as to where they got the turbo information though...

From www.ft86club.com/forums

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by TylerD951

$28,000 for a limited would mean just a little over $29,000 with tag, title, and tax in Oklahoma. That would be awesome.

Isn't your tax rate around 8-8.5% which is $2,380 in taxes alone. Add your tag/title/dealer fees and you are well over $30k, probably approaching $31k.

[n2oinferno]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Isn't your tax rate around 8-8.5% which is $2,380 in taxes alone. Add your tag/title/dealer fees and you are well over $30k, probably approaching $31k.

I'm not sure what rates are there, but are you going by the assumption that sales tax = car tax? It doesn't always work that way. Here in SC there is a maximum 300 dollar sales tax on cars.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

I'm not sure what rates are there, but are you going by the assumption that sales tax = car tax? It doesn't always work that way. Here in SC there is a maximum 300 dollar sales tax on cars.

Max of $300 sales tax? Wow, that is awesome. Very jealous. Yeah I was under the assumption that sales tax is levied on the car tax. Didn't realize other states did it differently (should have guessed that).

[Buggy51]

and many people in CA cry to hear that... lol

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Toyota went to Subaru.
Subaru said no.
Project died 100%.
2? Years later Subaru went back to Toyota with "let's do this".

Toyota went to Subaru
Subaru said no way, RWD is dangerous, an un-possible anyways
Toyota facepalmed and sent some engineering interns to hack up a Legacy and make it RWD and actually turn in.
2 Years later Subaru said 'ZOMGWTFBBQ HOW DID YOU DO THAT??? We want one too!"







Heh...

[DantKR]

http://www.carmax.com/enus/tax-title...r/default.html

300 max for SC... I'm jelly

[quik1987]

Did somebody say turbo?

[zAnSh1n]

Originally Posted by DantKR

http://www.carmax.com/enus/tax-title...r/default.html

300 max for SC... I'm jelly

hey thanks for that...

too bad i will be paying ~$3700 in TTL, crap...

:leans a little more towards the fr-s: