2012 Geneva - Toyota GT86 in Black, Blue, White, Orange. Official weight & 0-60 Shown

[tree fingers]

Are European crash standards typically less stringent?

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by zAnSh1n

hmmm, maybe, but hard to believe on a "frameless" unit... unless if the homelink buttons are touchscreen based

Oh man now you talking!

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by Quentin

This is a Toyota GT86, which is not coming to the US...

Also there is no stripped down version of the GT86 in europe. So is this 2601 pounds for that version?

Maybe just maybe the Subaru BRZ is going to be 100 to 160 heavier than the FR-S....hmmmm maybe....LMAO!

[zAnSh1n]

Originally Posted by tree fingers

Are European crash standards typically less stringent?

it appears so, judging by the lighter weight...

[kangu]

I really wish that the Scion FR-S came with the same climate control layout thats in the GT-86.

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by kangu

I really wish that the Scion FR-S came with the same climate control layout thats in the GT-86.

It does.

Just not the Auto HVAC ones.....

[Matador]

Originally Posted by Capt Canuck

From the placard above... 'The Nurburgring played an important role...' Hmm ;-)

From 'first drive' reports... 'when you ask Tada-san, the engineering boss in charge of the project the usual, turgid, Nurburgring lap-time question, he just shrugs and smiles. He doesn't care: "This doesn't matter."'

Very interesting to see it come in under 1200kgs though. To get a modern coupe weighing that little is impressive :-)

Notice they said the Nurburgring played an important roll, not nurburgring laptimes played an important role... SMH

[Alfie]

Glad to see they doubled the hight/protection of the plastic stone chip cover just behind the front wheels- now held with 3 rivets and it looks like these models have also been fitted with the plastic wheel well liners front and rear. I was starting to worry about this 'cause we can have some pretty gritty and salty winters in Toronto!

[viper_driver]

Originally Posted by CSSM

I doubt Toyota would let a typo slip by at an event like this

Scion would.

[NemesisPrime909]

Originally Posted by GTR

disappointing 0-100 time for me, 7 seconds is pretty pathetic.

why? They've said from the beginning that this car isn't about fast lap times or big horse power, but that it was all about Balance

so it's 0-100km time is "low" I guarantee you when driven it will feel properly planted and consistent rather than all over the place like some cars are

[stlgrym3]

why Toyota name them Scion here in the US? such a turn off. i want originality, i want tradition, Scion brand has neither, it reeks cheap teenager first car with loud audio system to me.

[Capt Canuck]

Originally Posted by stlgrym3

why Toyota name them Scion here in the US? such a turn off. i want originality, i want tradition, Scion brand has neither, it reeks cheap teenager first car with loud audio system to me.

You're an open minded chap aren't ya?

Peel off the Scion badges, glue on some Toyota ones, always refer to it as the '86, and get it serviced at a joint Toyota/Scion dealership where you can wait with all the Camry and Prius owners.

[dsgerbc]

Originally Posted by tree fingers

Are European crash standards typically less stringent?

Nope.

[SunnyD]

Originally Posted by stlgrym3

why Toyota name them Scion here in the US? such a turn off. i want originality, i want tradition, Scion brand has neither, it reeks cheap teenager first car with loud audio system to me.

I drive a Scion and I am neither a teenager nor is it my first car. And I'm completely content with the stock audio system thank you very much