FR-S/BRZ vs 2011+ Mustang V6

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

You forgot to put for the Mustang more space in the rear seats and trunk.

Does the Mustang really have more available trunk space? My only experience is with my wife's '05 convertible which I'm sure has less than the hard top, but there's no way you could get 4 tires in there. I'm not sure you could get more than one full-size in there.

I realize that in the FR-S that means with the seats down but its still available trunk space.

[MrBonus]

I'm debating selling the Boss LS for the BRZ for what it's worth. I bought the Boss to track and I have had next to no time to do so in the past year and it's an expensive toy for something that gets little use. As a street car, the Boss is very large and while it's engaging, it isn't particularly fun as it has more power than can be used anywhere and it's so wide that you can't drive it aggressively without fear of being partially in the oncoming lane.

[Gaiakai]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Does the Mustang really have more available trunk space? My only experience is with my wife's '05 convertible which I'm sure has less than the hard top, but there's no way you could get 4 tires in there. I'm not sure you could get more than one full-size in there.

I realize that in the FR-S that means with the seats down but its still available trunk space.

According to this article, the BRZ has 6.9 cu.ft. of trunk space with the seats up.

The 2011+ Mustang has 13.4 cu.ft. with seats up. Without the Shaker 1000 subwoofer. Rear seats fold down as well.

BRZ cargo area is really shallow :/

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by MrBonus

I'm debating selling the Boss LS for the BRZ for what it's worth. I bought the Boss to track and I have had next to no time to do so in the past year and it's an expensive toy for something that gets little use. As a street car, the Boss is very large and while it's engaging, it isn't particularly fun as it has more power than can be used anywhere and it's so wide that you can't drive it aggressively without fear of being partially in the oncoming lane.

That means you can get a Limited model with money left over for modding or savings. If I was to win a BOSS I would do the same thing. One thing I hate about Mustangs is when you look out the windshield its hard to see the road because it doesn't have a low-slung front end like a classic GT shape sports car/coupe.

[Capt Canuck]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Does the Mustang really have more available trunk space? My only experience is with my wife's '05 convertible which I'm sure has less than the hard top, but there's no way you could get 4 tires in there. I'm not sure you could get more than one full-size in there.

I realize that in the FR-S that means with the seats down but its still available trunk space.

The convertible seriously eats into the trunk. I remember getting a Mustang convertible car hire a few years back and I could only fit one proper sized suitcase in it, without having to get all Tetris about it.

Had a '11 V6 Coupe car hire at Xmas and it had loads of space in the trunk, fit my bag, holiday gifts, and unsuspecting hitchhiker no problem at all.

[Miniata]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Does the Mustang really have more available trunk space? My only experience is with my wife's '05 convertible which I'm sure has less than the hard top, but there's no way you could get 4 tires in there. I'm not sure you could get more than one full-size in there.

I realize that in the FR-S that means with the seats down but its still available trunk space.

Yes, the Mustang does have considerably more trunk space. In my '08 Mustang I can get four tires inside for autocrossing, one in the trunk and three in the back seat.

[MrBonus]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

That means you can get a Limited model with money left over for modding or savings. If I was to win a BOSS I would do the same thing. One thing I hate about Mustangs is when you look out the windshield its hard to see the road because it doesn't have a low-slung front end like a classic GT shape sports car/coupe.

Yes, you aren't on top of the action by any means which does create a sense of disconnect. The front is long and large and the driving position is upright.

[Snoopyalien24]

Originally Posted by Gaiakai

According to this article, the BRZ has 6.9 cu.ft. of trunk space with the seats up.

The 2011+ Mustang has 13.4 cu.ft. with seats up. Without the Shaker 1000 subwoofer. Rear seats fold down as well.

BRZ cargo area is really shallow :/

The length of the Mustang is almost 14 Inches longer than that of the 86

Length: 188.1 in. vs 166.9 in.

[SuqMadiq]

Hell, I don't even like Mustangs, but if I was looking for a sporty car in the mid-twenties the Mustang would probably be one of the better choices. The only thing I can figure to why the BR-Z and FR-S cost so much is based upon their exclusivity in the market. Performance wise, it just doesn't seem to be valued correctly.

Anyways, maybe I'm missing something, but I would of thought the BR-Z would have at least beat it in on the skidpad and in the handling department.


Motortrend
------------Price as Tested--------------------Price as Tested
-----------BR-Z Est - $28,000----2011 V6 Mustang-----$25,385

ACCELERATION TO MPH
0-30 2.3 sec ------------------1.9 sec
0-40 3.4 ----------------------2.8
0-50 4.8-----------------------3.9
0-60 6.4-----------------------5.1
0-70 8.4-----------------------6.7
0-80 10.5----------------------8.5
0-90 13.2 ----------------------10.5
0-100 16.4----------------------13.1
PASSING, 45-65 MPH 3.3------------------2.7
QUARTER MILE 14.9 sec @ 95.5 mph------13.7@ 102.2 mph
BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 120 ft---------------104ft
LATERAL ACCELERATION 0.90 g (avg)----.96 g
MT FIGURE EIGHT 26.2 sec @ 0.68 g (avg)-----25.8 sec @ .71 g (avg)
TOP-GEAR REVS @ 60 MPH 2650 rpm --------1800 rpm
Mileage - 22/30 mpg-------------------------19/29 mpg

[Sportsguy83]

If your only criteria to choose a car is the one that accelerates the quickest, then definitely, you are sorely disappointed by the BRZ's performance.

But for some other people, this is not the primary or the only factor when buying a new car.

It really is that simple.

And FYI, I have driven a 2012 Mustang GT, floored it, up to 120 mph.... Nothing impressive or fun about it.

[Hanzo]

Another one!? LOL.

1: Weak US dollar vs Yen
2: Prius tires for more fun on public road
3: If you buy a car base on numbers don't buy BRZ/FRS

[Hanzo]

I was at the local autoshow checking out the new BRZ. Start chatting with this guy who said he wish he had more power/turbo. I said you can never have enough power, you just get used to it and want more. He said he had a 500hp Mustang and that he usually have to let off the gas after 2nd gear on the street. I said what's the fun in that.

I've had WRX, RX-7 turbo, Evo, and Miatas, I've come to a conclusion that a fun car is more important than a fast car.

You can add horsepower to a car but you can't add driving pleasure to a car.

[alluringreality]

You also cannot add practicality to a car. I may hold out to see the FR-S/BRZ before I sell my car, but considering the car is even smaller than the 2nd 240sx, I suspect the rear seats are worthless. The BRZ beats the automatic Mustang test from Motortrend in a few categories:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/viewall.html

[Zgrinch]

There must be a reason why you don't understand what this car is all about ....