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Old 03-20-2013, 02:04 PM   #99
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TRD has become a joke.

Let's face it, if I went full retard and agreed to buy the two, no one will take the second one off my hands as no one would be dumb enough. So what? I'm 52K in the hole, plus the cost of the original car, that's 77K MSRP. Let's say it's 4grand after tuning and the rest of the outrageously priced TRD pipes that need to make this thing work.

that's 81K before any taxes or shipping which is 8000 more than a BRAND NEW Cayman S with 325HP from the factory. Not to mention the 2012 Cayman R can be had for less than a new 2013 Cayman S. I think it's quite reasonable to make the statement that the Cayman S is a far, FAR superior car in than the 86 by no stretch of the imagination.

You know what would be a slap in the face and nuts and have your shaft chewed off after paying 81K to have a supercharged 86? Getting only 50HP more at the crank for your troubles.

Almost as outrageous as TRD charging 250 for replacing a push button starter that may or may not be grams lighter than stock with a "better" mechanism.
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:16 PM   #100
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I wonder if I can contact Ferrari to see if I can just buy one of their F360 V8's. It couldn't cost for than, say, $50k??? Dunno call me skeptical...
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:26 PM   #101
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Someone should build a twin-engine FR-S and beat the pants off the other teams running this supercharger. It would cost half as much and make 400bhp
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:39 PM   #102
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I wonder how much it cost the Speed Hunters team to drop a 2JZ in there?
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:44 PM   #103
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This bad boy shows its $26,000 and a minimum purchase of 2 kits. And yea that's the correct price so you have to pay $52,000 minimum.


Not much else to say...
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:45 PM   #104
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The demands put on a part for a race car are not even remotely close to the demands on a part for a street car, even one that is taken to track days and occasionally given a good beating. A $4k supercharger would probably not last through one race in this series, and if it did it would not make enough power to compete. These teams need one that will last through an entire season, although I wouldn't be surprised if they rebuild them after every few races just to be safe. Now, once you have this supercharger that you think is built up enough to survive in the harshest possible operating environment, you are not going to just set up an assembly line and build thousands of them without making sure all the bugs are worked out first. That means you build a few of them by hand, making it even more expensive. Race teams buy these hand built, expensive parts, in the hopes that they are reliable enough to win them some races. In return, they provide feedback about what can be improved, and once the manufacturer decides it is good enough to mass produce, they mass produce them and that's when they go on sale to consumers. That's how just about every car part worth buying has come into existence.

You could also ask why would a race team buy a Ford Racing Boss 302 for $130,000 when they could get a regular one for $50,000? The street car has brakes that only need to stop from 100+ once in a while, it has suspension that never needs to be tuned for specific tracks, it has a transmission that does not like to be jammed into gear over and over for hundreds of miles. By the time you put in the overengineered, low production volume parts you need to make your stock 302 into a spec race car, you'd have spent well over what Ford charges you to do all the work for you.


Everything you said after that bold part....fell apart for me. The same team running the FR-S in the WC ran the Scion tC previously (in endurance races), with a TRD S/C on it. Pretty sure it lasted longer than one race. And Aftermarket is always Greater than Factory. So, a Ford Racing Boss 302 costing $130k vs a Regular one for $50k + $80K dumped into it to bring cost to $130k.....You put your money on the Regular one to destroy a factory Boss 302.

Not all parts are developed from race cars only and are low volume overengineered. You can't apply what TRD/Toyota is currently doing, across the board to other vehicles.
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:50 PM   #105
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This is fucking stupid.
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Old 03-20-2013, 03:18 PM   #106
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I wonder how much it cost the Speed Hunters team to drop a 2JZ in there?
sell the stock FA20 and transmission, buy a 2jz,transmission, all the supporting mods.... some custom fab work... and you might actually MAKE money doing it... lol.... thats saying if you keep it under 500whp
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Old 03-20-2013, 03:25 PM   #107
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26,000 zimbabwean dollar maybe?
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Old 03-20-2013, 03:27 PM   #108
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Does this kit come with a life time supply of gas?
Or an M3?
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Old 03-20-2013, 03:37 PM   #109
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I wonder how much it cost the Speed Hunters team to drop a 2JZ in there?
Engine Cost + Tranny + other parts.

Probably under 7k, as they did the labor themselves.
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Old 03-20-2013, 03:55 PM   #110
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This is absolutely absurd! Hmmm....maybe Kenne Belle can help a brother out.
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Maybe if we get a 1000 person group buy we can get it for under 20k.
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