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Old 05-07-2012, 02:03 AM   #99
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Carbon fiber springs for your coil-ov-- oh wait... For your spring-over dampers anyone?

http://www.hypercoils.com/bellows-springs.html
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Old 05-07-2012, 02:25 AM   #100
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Wait wtf is that???
It says bellows, I looked up "bellows" and got http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellows

Are those air springs?

EDIT: appears not to be...could someone explain how they "bend"?
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could someone explain how they "bend"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belleville_washer
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:52 AM   #102
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Wait wtf is that???
It says bellows, I looked up "bellows" and got http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellows

Are those air springs?

EDIT: appears not to be...could someone explain how they "bend"?
They've been using those belleville washers (in conventional steel form) that Old Greg linked to for roll-control on mono-shock front suspension for a little while now.
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:33 AM   #103
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a little while now.
Nearly 20 years now.
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Old 05-07-2012, 01:04 PM   #104
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Nearly 20 years now.
God damn I'm getting old... 1990s isn't a 'little while ago' anymore is it?

Is it official when you hear music from your high school days on a classic rock station?
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Old 05-07-2012, 01:05 PM   #105
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those bellville stacks are interesting, never seen them on a car before. Idea seems solid, why no mass production?
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those bellville stacks are interesting, never seen them on a car before. Idea seems solid, why no mass production?
Maybe because until they started to play with composite ones there wasn't much difference than the already established coils?

(I just posted that up because carbon fiber is awesome...)
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Tell me about it.
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....Is it official when you hear music from your high school days on a classic rock station?
No, its when they STOP playing it on the classic rock station you know you're in trouble.
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those bellville stacks are interesting, never seen them on a car before. Idea seems solid, why no mass production?
This is a pure guess as I haven't worked with these in this application, but I'd say 'coil bind' would be one reason, cost another, and I'm wondering how linear they are?
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Looks like their travel sucks too, but the what hell do I know.

Pioneering suspension setups isnt my thing anyways.
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So if I came up with Front 1.5Hz and Rear 1.35Hz (RCE says 185 lbs/in f&r) would I be in the right ball park?
I think you asked me this somewhere else, but yes you are in the ball park (closer to 1.6 front).

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