engine swap thread

[White Comet]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I have driven a quick economy car, it was a an integra type R with 195hp.

Often considered the best handling FWD car ever made, but what does the enthusiast public at large know?

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

They are not serious cars .

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I have driven a S2000 which isn't really an economy car but it is gutless. For young teenage kids these cars might be ok.

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

They are really for the kind of kids that are a bit quirky and nerdy. The cooler kids like different things.

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I hope this car isnt going to be aimed at nerdy kids and will be a somewhat serious car.It needs to have around the same performance as a 370z which is a respectable car.

Yes, a 21k dollar with the same performance as a 30k dollar one. Makes perfect sense. I also hope it weighs less than a Hayabusa bike (those things are fat pigs), comes with quad turbos (one for every cylinder!) and Formula Atlantic cams. I hear you can light the pavement on fire with those things.

Oh, and in case you don't get the gist here....

[NESW20]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I have driven a quick economy car, it was a an integra type R with 195hp. I have driven an old prelude vtec with around the same amount of hp. These cars were funny and kind of quick but they are what they are. They are not serious cars. I have driven a S2000 which isn't really an economy car but it is gutless. For young teenage kids these cars might be ok. They are really for the kind of kids that are a bit quirky and nerdy. The cooler kids like different things. I have higher hopes for this ft 86. I hope this car isnt going to be aimed at nerdy kids and will be a somewhat serious car. It needs to have around the same performance as a 370z which is a respectable car.

this entire statement makes me wonder if you're actually proficient at driving a car properly.

-Mike

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I have driven a quick economy car, it was a an integra type R with 195hp. I have driven an old prelude vtec with around the same amount of hp. These cars were funny and kind of quick but they are what they are. They are not serious cars. I have driven a S2000 which isn't really an economy car but it is gutless. For young teenage kids these cars might be ok. They are really for the kind of kids that are a bit quirky and nerdy. The cooler kids like different things. I have higher hopes for this ft 86. I hope this car isnt going to be aimed at nerdy kids and will be a somewhat serious car. It needs to have around the same performance as a 370z which is a respectable car.

K, if you can enlighten me a bit. Cuz I sure don't get what you're sayin'

Type-R aren't serious cars? Then was is? Ferrari F40, Lamborghini Murcielago, Porsche Carrera GT, Austin Martin Vanquish, Bugatti Veyron, BMW M3 or M1, Mercedes Benz SL65 AMG Black, Audi R8?

What do you mean by S2k is for quirky and nerdy kids? I'm not fan of Honda, so I'll never buy S2k (no offense to S2k or Honda fan here), but I sure don't think it's for quirky and nerdy kids car. Example: C-West's S2k. That S2k ran 100th of second slower than Auto Signal GT-R (Unlimited AWD class) in '05 Time Attack @ Buttonwillow Speedway Park and took 1st place of Unlimited FR Class (2nd place was BMW CSL w over 1.5 sec slower than S2k). Oh also it was running stock 2L engine, only thing they have done is chassis, suspension & wheels/tires.


Now if quirky and nerdy car can do that, what's so-called "Cooler" kids car? 370z, STI, Evo-X, R35 and all those 3,500lbs plus heavy weight cars? I sure don't wanna pay $32k~$85k.

[S2KtoFT86]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I have driven a quick economy car, it was a an integra type R with 195hp. I have driven an old prelude vtec with around the same amount of hp. These cars were funny and kind of quick but they are what they are. They are not serious cars. I have driven a S2000 which isn't really an economy car but it is gutless. For young teenage kids these cars might be ok. They are really for the kind of kids that are a bit quirky and nerdy. The cooler kids like different things. I have higher hopes for this ft 86. I hope this car isnt going to be aimed at nerdy kids and will be a somewhat serious car. It needs to have around the same performance as a 370z which is a respectable car.

Lol, you really have no clue what you're talking about. Go back to your lawlerskillzstraightlineperformanceyo. You have no clue what the S was built for, nor do you realize what the FT is being geared towards. Stick with your vette if you wanna race from stop light to stop light. Kthxbai. :happy0180: Ah crap, I think we're feeding the troll here guys.

[Crispin]

I think I would probably do an H6 swap, sacrifice a little weight for more HP/TQ, but maintain my lower center of gravity.

-C

[OldSkoolToys]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I have driven a quick economy car, it was a an integra type R with 195hp. I have driven an old prelude vtec with around the same amount of hp. These cars were funny and kind of quick but they are what they are. They are not serious cars. I have driven a S2000 which isn't really an economy car but it is gutless. For young teenage kids these cars might be ok. They are really for the kind of kids that are a bit quirky and nerdy. The cooler kids like different things. I have higher hopes for this ft 86. I hope this car isnt going to be aimed at nerdy kids and will be a somewhat serious car. It needs to have around the same performance as a 370z which is a respectable car.

You've driven in straight-lines.

My grandma used to do that back in the 60's with her Thunderbird down Indiana state highways going between the two restaurants she and my grandfather owned.

Big deal. You base everything off how fast a car is in a straight. You talk of teenage kid cars, well, you sound like a teenage moron right now. The rest of us have grown up and realised there's much more to cars than just HP.

This car (FT-86) is being engineered to be a driver's car. A car that attacks corners with balance and immediate response/feedback. Its NOT supposed to a drag car.

For the bolded part: I totally agree! Cooler kids like light-weight, nimble, quick in the corner compact RWD sports cars with a responsive engine! Hmmm, well, guess that doesn't make you cool.

[S2KtoFT86]

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

You've driven in straight-lines.

My grandma used to do that back in the 60's with her Thunderbird down Indiana state highways going between the two restaurants she and my grandfather owned.

Big deal. You base everything off how fast a car is in a straight. You talk of teenage kid cars, well, you sound like a teenage moron right now. The rest of us have grown up and realised there's much more to cars than just HP.

This car (FT-86) is being engineered to be a driver's car. A car that attacks corners with balance and immediate response/feedback. Its NOT supposed to a drag car.

For the bolded part: I totally agree! Cooler kids like light-weight, nimble, quick in the corner compact RWD sports cars with a responsive engine! Hmmm, well, guess that doesn't make you cool.

Oh yeah,

[OldSkoolToys]

Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86

Oh yeah,

He's not a troll, he's a simple-minded "Car enthusiast" that looks at one stat and one stat only.

[S2KtoFT86]

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

He's not a troll, he's a simple-minded "Car enthusiast" that looks at one stat and one stat only.

Sounded like a troll to me. Too bad I suppose.

[OldSkoolToys]

Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86

Sounded like a troll to me. Too bad I suppose.

Well thats the beauty of trolls. They're either really that stupid/moronic/simple-minded/closed-minded/retarded, or they're trolling.

I always assume they're not trolling and just bash 'em, except when the possibilty of not trolling is around if its something to educate someone on (like I did earlier with the 86 explanation). But this is a different type of troll.
If they do end up to be trolls than we all know what happens to them. They get reincarnated as dog shit, because the karma gods hate trolls.

That comes straight from the karma gods themselves.

[S2KtoFT86]

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

Well thats the beauty of trolls. They're either really that stupid/moronic/simple-minded/closed-minded/retarded, or they're trolling.

I always assume they're not trolling and just bash 'em, except when the possibilty of not trolling is around if its something to educate someone on (like I did earlier with the 86 explanation). But this is a different type of troll.
If they do end up to be trolls than we all know what happens to them. They get reincarnated as dog shit, because the karma gods hate trolls.

That comes straight from the karma gods themselves.

ROFL, you're the man.

[scape]

hey now, everyone's entitled to their opinions; and shoehorning a ridiculous engine in a car built for a completely dif. purpose does not sound far off from what some have done in the past. tho i do laugh everytime 370z is brought up, wth is with that car and people? that is no baseline to go off of... nonethematter, depending on default-- the only thing i'd consider is a 2.5 turbo h4 but to be honest i think the stock engine built up would be more fun

[aspera]

Hrmmm...
What's the best 6 cylinder that Toyota could throw in the FT-86? Is it a flat 6 or one of their V6s? That would put it head-to-head with a Z.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by aspera

Hrmmm...
What's the best 6 cylinder that Toyota could throw in the FT-86? Is it a flat 6 or one of their V6s? That would put it head-to-head with a Z.

Depends on which V6 engine Toyo put GR or MZ. Just did few research and looks like GR has 220~260hp (except for 2GR-FSE pushing over 300hp), while Subaru's recent H6 series is EZ, which they're pushing bout the same amount of HP. So bout 70~90hp off from current Z.