The Drifting Thread

[CarzCarzCarz]

Are there any ways to get more angle from a stock car?

[DriftinFRS]

Originally Posted by SoCal80six

Anyone on here drifting a boosted 86??

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Im currently drifting boosted. Only one event on it though because i got it done at the end of the season last year. No oil cooler was needed at 280whp yet... im currently upping the boost. Car is at Drift Office getting injectors flex fuel, boost controller and a tune. Excited to see how it performs... I am worrid about my axles though

[TylerLieberman]

Originally Posted by CarzCarzCarz

Are there any ways to get more angle from a stock car?

Megan tie rods are the cheapest and easiest solution. Otherwise, you're looking at modifying the knuckles.

[Shady195]

So I have to say, I'm impressed with the megan rack ends.

The do increase angle by what I'd say quite a bit. The 1" gap or so that i had between my wheel and swaybar now rubs. While its April here in NY, we got some snow today and i was playing around and was giddy; it just felt so much better.

Also, I took a picture of them (stock and megan) side by side. unfortunately like an idiot while in the zone, we did not take angle measurements on the car before and after.. I thought it was extending the rod; though after seeing it, it makes more sense; it simply changes the pivot point to allow more angle; much like rack spacers on an S13 as i understand it.




I also corner corner balanced my car. I would highly suggest everyone do the same. A friend of mine has a legit set of scales/camber/toe/bumpsteer tools so we decided to do a full alignment and corner balance with all my parts.

Firstly; depending on your car, your dampers, you the driver and your level of OCD or need for that stance life, if the potential of uneven ride height bothers you then its not for you..

However if you want a car that feels extremely stable and exactly the same in both directions, well then you should deff do a corner balance. While I don't condone messing around on the street, I was able to go into an old commerical building lot and whip the car around on dry pavement (day before the snow) I honestly have never felt so "confident", like the car did not get twitch, it transitioned in a manji better than it ever has.

[CarzCarzCarz]

Thank you Shady195 for the informative post above, from this I've ordered a set of the megan rod ends. I'll try to take pics of my wheel spacing and whatnot when I install them.

[tato.valverde]

Originally Posted by CarzCarzCarz

Thank you Shady195 for the informative post above, from this I've ordered a set of the megan rod ends. I'll try to take pics of my wheel spacing and whatnot when I install them.

Please do so! I'm trying to figure out if with my wheel setup it's worth it going with Parts Shop Max angle kit or not. This would be the other option if pbm can't cut it

[CarzCarzCarz]

It might be a little while before I get a chance to do the install, as I'll be out of town soon. But I will do my best when I do get around to it.

[Shady195]

Originally Posted by tato.valverde

Please do so! I'm trying to figure out if with my wheel setup it's worth it going with Parts Shop Max angle kit or not. This would be the other option if pbm can't cut it

I'd recommend holding off. You can spend that money on a lot of other worthwhile parts to make your experience better. While the PBM/Driftknuckle/Wisefab kits will give you more angle; Without boost these cars don't really lack the power to push that kind of angle. They will certainly help make a save if you over extend yourself; but your not going to have the power to hold it IMO. The car struggles enough if you watch some of the videos in hear, requires a lot of clutch.

[TylerLieberman]

Originally Posted by tato.valverde

Please do so! I'm trying to figure out if with my wheel setup it's worth it going with Parts Shop Max angle kit or not. This would be the other option if pbm can't cut it

Gotta run pretty small wheels and tires and expect to have some poke when running the PBM kit on stock fenders. Anything more than like 17x8 is really pushing what you can make fit under the OEM fenders without some poke.

Originally Posted by Shady195

I'd recommend holding off. You can spend that money on a lot of other worthwhile parts to make your experience better. While the PBM/Driftknuckle/Wisefab kits will give you more angle; Without boost these cars don't really lack the power to push that kind of angle. They will certainly help make a save if you over extend yourself; but your not going to have the power to hold it IMO. The car struggles enough if you watch some of the videos in hear, requires a lot of clutch.

This^^^

The PBM kit is great, but all the steering angle in the world is useless if you have a car that's unable to keep the wheel speed up. You can run stock power with the PBM kit and throw massive hangle, but you won't be able to hold the wider lines. You'll find yourself with too much forward bite and you won't be able to maintain the line you want.

In my opinion, just cutting the OEM knuckles or doing the tie rods is the way to go if you plan on staying N/A. If you intend to go with forced induction and really want the maximum angle possible, then PBM would be my first choice. Though I would add Todoroki 30mm front fenders or something, because seeing that Teurck'd bullshit front fender fitment pisses me off.

[gatorbushmen]

Originally Posted by Shady195

I'd recommend holding off. You can spend that money on a lot of other worthwhile parts to make your experience better. While the PBM/Driftknuckle/Wisefab kits will give you more angle; Without boost these cars don't really lack the power to push that kind of angle. They will certainly help make a save if you over extend yourself; but your not going to have the power to hold it IMO. The car struggles enough if you watch some of the videos in hear, requires a lot of clutch.

I was really happy with how the car performed at my first drift event with the PBM kit installed. I was able to hold angle at the top of 3rd, surprisingly. Granted, the car could definitely use more power to take full advantage of the the kit's ability, but if you have the right technique you can drift full lock no problem.

It does depend on the tracks you drift at though..... The only way I wouldn't recommend PBM is if you drift at tracks that you have a hard time revving the car out, or not being able to get enough entry speed. Entry speed becomes such an important factor when dealing with a low powered car with alot of angle.

Regardless, I respectfully disagree with those that justify not getting PBM because the car doesn't have enough power. I went from having just megan inners, to a custom knuckle/outer tie rod setup, to PBM and it is by far the best mod you can do once you feel confident enough in your drifting.

Here is some video of my first event with the kit installed. Fast forward to 8:50 for my best run.

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[gatorbushmen]

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

because seeing that Teurck'd bullshit front fender fitment pisses me off.

I have tuerck fitment, sorry to piss you off. I'll get some type of over fender one day

[TylerLieberman]

Originally Posted by gatorbushmen

I have tuerck fitment, sorry to piss you off. I'll get some type of over fender one day

Lol it's all good. I'm talking strictly from a style standpoint, which is obviously subjective. I just am not presonally a fan of the way it looks. I blame Subaru for putting in the wide ass boxer engine and giving such little clearance for increased angle up front.

On another note, I've seen a couple of your videos on YT. Cool to see somebody progress with their build and drive it. Nice change of pace from the other channels I see of people doing nothing but vlogs driving on city streets in traffic.

[Shinchu]

Im following gatorbushmen on yt also. Good vids dude! I have been out of the drift game for a while and i even checked your first drift event suggestions just to see if i remember what to bring. I would also add to that list... fluids! For the car and yourself. Good vids though man you are catching on and really doing well!
Oh yeah and i think my helmet is a snell 2000 lol im old...

As for the angle, yeah i would really say the pbm angle kit is not for beginners. Learn t h e car with stock angle first, then get the tie rods after a while.
I really just want the rods and try relocating the swaybar mount since that binding would piss me off.

Man i need to get to an event. Easiest thing is thursday nights in riverside but thats a mofo when i work in san diego at 6am lol otherwise i need to look for moto's events.

[campy]

I've got the PBM kit and it looks like I will need wider fenders to fit any tire bigger than 215 under there. I test fitted my 18x9.5 wheels and I didn't dare try driving on them because I knew they would rip off the fenders.

I'm looking at the Todoroki fenders, but it's hard to justify the $1200 price tag and I worry 30mm might not be enough clearance. I'm tempted to just order the Rocket Bunny front fenders since they're only $500, but that would probably look really goofy.

The worst part is that until I figure out this fender problem, I can't track or drift my car