Used FRS vs. new BRZ

[Coachrhino11]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Speaking of hills in a Miata, going up this 14,000 ft. high mountain in CO (Pikes Peak), did present a "start" challenge at about 13,000 feet, when rounding a hair pin curve on the gravel section, when a DA in a camper stopped mid curve ......

However, not to worry ....... it's all paved now ......


humfrz

Love that area

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Coachrhino11

Maybe I’m just very run down and tired now, but due to .50 gallon difference, I like idea of filling up with regular, no?

LOL never complain about gas prices to a Canadian. We are at around $4.50 a gallon for regular right now. Premium is going to run about $5.10 to $5.30. The sad part is that this is about as cheap as it gets. A couple of years back it was easy to pay well over $6.00 for 91. The way I look at it is that if I need to use premium gas then I want the car to use as little as possible. Not sure that I would ever be worried about a $5.00 difference in a fill up though. At once a week that is a whopping $260 difference over the course of a year. I piss away more than that in coffee. If that difference is a make or break consideration then you need to look closely at your finances.

Cars that need premium gas make power through compression. Compression causes knock. Knock destroys engines. The only way to combat knock is the use a higher octane gas. To make the same power on regular gas then they need to change much of the car.

[Riftur]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Did you check the car's rear end closely for damage ??.......


humfrz

Only if a hot woman is driving it.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Coachrhino11

Honestly, I just said FR-S or new BRZ, but I was inferring used twin vs. new regardless of which. I personally don’t like looks of new 86 front just in pics and interior looks cheaper. What goodies other than removable top does RF have that BRZ doesn’t?

The list is pretty extensive.
They are far more loaded than even the top trim Twins.
They better be at around $15K more.
They even come with armrests.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Aluma007

The LEDs and steering wheel on the 17 brz finally convinced me to get one last year...haven't kept a car more than 2-3 years in a while and I've driven many others as well...can't say I'd want to buy another car anytime soon. Very happy with the brz. Other than back seat passenger complaints, its an amazing little car and I've averaged 31mpg for over 16K miles....I'd probably get more if I slowed down a little, but wheres the fun in that??? :P

You put people back there, after they are old enough to talk .......


humfrz

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

My wife says the same. and even though my average is 32MPG and hers is 28MPG she does not get the idea that hers is not cheaper since it uses regular gas.

I reckon you use a different kind of math than mrs Tcoat uses ........


humfrz

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Riftur

Only if a hot woman is driving it.

....... this is a car forum, stay on topic.......


humfrz

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by humfrz

I reckon you use a different kind of math than mrs Tcoat uses ........


humfrz

Yes she strongly subscribes to the school of false economy. Much like business that insist in single ply toilet paper since it is "cheaper" but fail to understand people just use three times as much to get the job done.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Yes she strongly subscribes to the school of false economy. Much like business that insist in single ply toilet paper since it is "cheaper" but fail to understand people just use three times as much to get the job done.

I have found that when it comes to the bathroom ...... NEVER, argue with a woman. DO NOT fart in the bathroom when she is in there. And, on a related note, NEVER pee off the rear deck, if she can see you ......


humfrz

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by humfrz

I have found that when it comes to the bathroom ...... NEVER, argue with a woman. DO NOT fart in the bathroom when she is in there. And, on a related note, NEVER pee off the rear deck, if she can see you ......


humfrz

Oh man, if I didn't fart in the bathroom when she is in there she would think there was something wrong and send me to the doctor.

[Coachrhino11]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

LOL never complain about gas prices to a Canadian. We are at around $4.50 a gallon for regular right now. Premium is going to run about $5.10 to $5.30. The sad part is that this is about as cheap as it gets. A couple of years back it was easy to pay well over $6.00 for 91. The way I look at it is that if I need to use premium gas then I want the car to use as little as possible. Not sure that I would ever be worried about a $5.00 difference in a fill up though. At once a week that is a whopping $260 difference over the course of a year. I piss away more than that in coffee. If that difference is a make or break consideration then you need to look closely at your finances.

Cars that need premium gas make power through compression. Compression causes knock. Knock destroys engines. The only way to combat knock is the use a higher octane gas. To make the same power on regular gas then they need to change much of the car.

Lol, no I can easily afford it but remember my other vehicle is a Jeep, worse than trucks or as bad on gas. So, the mpg while fun factor and reliability are a value for me. Mazda says it’s okay to use regular gas on Miata but better torque with premium.

[Coachrhino11]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The list is pretty extensive.
They are far more loaded than even the top trim Twins.
They better be at around $15K more.
They even come with armrests.

15k?! No. I built new BRZ on site the way I wanted, MT, PP, exhaust and short shifter being options and it was 32 and change, around same as RF at least here in states.15k if you are comparing used FR-S to new RF which makes no sense. Other than top, I’m not seeing RF offering much more goodies. I just love looks personally and it was fun to drive.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Coachrhino11

Lol, no I can easily afford it but remember my other vehicle is a Jeep, worse than trucks or as bad on gas. So, the mpg while fun factor and reliability are a value for me. Mazda says it’s okay to use regular gas on Miata but better torque with premium.

I believe like most cars of the type the premium is the recommended fuel with the lower OK to use in a pinch. I would not be filling any car up with regular basis that recommends premium.
The $14K price difference will buy you a shitload of gas anyway.

[Coachrhino11]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I believe like most cars of the type the premium is the recommended fuel with the lower OK to use in a pinch. I would not be filling any car up with regular basis that recommends premium.
The $14K price difference will buy you a shitload of gas anyway.

Agree, but where exactly are you getting 14k price difference? Stripped down used BRZ vs. loaded new RF?