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Old 09-04-2017, 06:53 PM   #85
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Just got the email, not that I have any dog in the fight, but interesting none the less.

https://www.scca.com/articles/200782...class-unveiled
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Old 09-04-2017, 07:12 PM   #86
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I don't get the SSC allowed into STX clause (only the toe arms aren't STX legal), why create a new spec class and then allow those cars into an existing class?
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Why are toe arms allowed in the first place? With Pro-Kit springs, it's not like you're going to have so much camber in the rear that you can't adjust toe without the arms, right? More $ for SPC?
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I don't get the SSC allowed into STX clause (only the toe arms aren't STX legal), why create a new spec class and then allow those cars into an existing class?
I was actually reading the rules yesterday and the toe arms are STX legal if you're using an adjustable LCA and not a modification to the upper arm (I think whiteline offers a camber bushing). Either it was changed in the last year or so or we're both crazy.

To your question, if you're the only guy showing up in SSC and there's someone running STX that isn't fully built it'd probably be more fun to compete heads up than just run for PAX on your lonesome. Same thing goes for a DS 86 that may want to run SSC for closer competition/a bigger field. It's a freebie for flexibility that doesn't really hurt anyone.

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On double/unequal arm (e.g., wishbone, multi-link) suspensions, only the upper arms OR lower arms may be modified or replaced, but not both.
So mess with the top links or bottom links, doesn't matter how many. I could have sworn there was something in there as well that you could only change one link or something (maybe a misreading of the word 'both').

I'm going to be ordering a pair of SPC toe arms in a week or two because the cam bolt on toe has fucked me over on my DIY alignments far too many times, and it's a pain to adjust, check, adjust, oops screwed it up back up and adjust again etc. I was originally planning on swapping back to OE when I got the alignment dialed in, but upon re-reading the rules it's fine to run aftermarket toe-link and LCA so I'll keep it in.

Edit: Provided the bushing metallic/non-metallic ratio isn't violated, which doesn't appear to be the case on the SPC. But I'll measure when I pull it out.


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OE link, looks close enough to be worth a shot.
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Just got the email, not that I have any dog in the fight, but interesting none the less.

https://www.scca.com/articles/200782...class-unveiled
But why are they excluding the 2017+ models? I guess my move to STX is still on.
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But why are they excluding the 2017+ models?!?!
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The shorter gearing of the 2017+ do make a difference, especially if you can't do a header and a tune to get rid of the dip.
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But why are they excluding the 2017+ models?!?!
My guess is if they did, they would then have to allow for a final drive change in the older cars (or newer cars). Which kind of makes it no longer a "turn-key competition package".
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Well... I'm happy the platform is getting the recognition! But I think I'm gonna go with the cool kids to STX.
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Quoting the wrong post here but a DS twin cant just go to the spec class because spec mods have to be the ones listed, purchased from Tire Rack
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Quoting the wrong post here but a DS twin cant just go to the spec class because spec mods have to be the ones listed, purchased from Tire Rack
Theoretically a bone stock car goes into DS, and is allowed in SSC under the "underprepared" allowance. Just can't use alternate DS-allowed parts.
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I was actually reading the rules yesterday and the toe arms are STX legal if you're using an adjustable LCA and not a modification to the upper arm (I think whiteline offers a camber bushing). Either it was changed in the last year or so or we're both crazy.
Why is the alignment kit from SPC mentioned with LCA and toe arms when it says FRONT kit??

"- SPC Front Alignment Kit (camber bolts, adjustable lower control arms and toe arms)"

Did someone goof and just mean to make it "SPC Alignment Kit"?
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Quoting the wrong post here but a DS twin cant just go to the spec class because spec mods have to be the ones listed, purchased from Tire Rack
Thanks for correcting me, I misinterpreted the presser. However you can compete with OE components and not be fully prepared. So you could have a car legal for both classes.

Also tire rack is not the sole supplier, but the discount probably makes it the best option.
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Why is the alignment kit from SPC mentioned with LCA and toe arms when it says FRONT kit??

"- SPC Front Alignment Kit (camber bolts, adjustable lower control arms and toe arms)"

Did someone goof and just mean to make it "SPC Alignment Kit"?
Probably just a typo. The presser won't be the final ruleset.
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