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phyre76 · 04-20-2011, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 40flash

I really don't care what they call it. A badge isn't going to make it drive any different. I'd be concerned about things that are much more relavent such as total weight. If it's 3,300 lbs I might as well buy a Genesis coupe. If it's under 3,000 just sell me one today.

agreed. I didn't want to say the same thing someone else said. I've had mostly Toyota's. I love my Scion tC. I've been watching this 086 platform since early 2007. I knew this would come out and said it should be a Scion, because of the Market. Who cares if it's a Scion or Toyota. It's like saying Toyota and Lexus are 2 different manufacturers! They're the same company. Scions are built in Lexus plants, in Japan. Their quality is no different than that of a Toyota OR Lexus. If it's a Toyota, Scion OR Lexus, I'd buy it, because I know it will be a great car.

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

Here's what I think it's going to be specs-wise. -2850 lbs/180-200hp/140-145 lb ft tq. With high gas prices nowadays I have changed my mind on wanting more than the amount I have stated. I love the looks of this bad boy!!! RSX you will be replaced.

Yea I totally love the looks of the 86, although I wish they wouldn't call it the FR-S...GOD that sounds stupid. How about S86, or 086, or Z86 (as in Zero), or just plain ol' 86!

Anyhoo. I guestimate the specs to be about the same. Mostlikely 200HP/170-180# tq (Scion would mostlikely keep the numbers sorta similar to tC, but better 2011 tC: 180hp/173tq @ 4400rpms), Curb weight around what you said, 2850lbs. 6sp stick/tip auto tranny. If they went low for the torque, it wouldn't be lower than 162tq@4000rpms that was on the 05-10 tCs. If they did 140lbs tq, it would be just another Civic Si like coupe. No thank you.

People want and talk about crazy power numbers, and are trying to compare the car to a 370Z! But you really can't. And they're not even in the same price range. Even the non turbo Supra was waaay out of the the pricerange that this car will be in. For the the Price (it's a Scion, so it WILL be inexpensive.) and it's coming from Toyota/Scion I know it will be a great car. I can't wait to drive it!

phyre76 · 04-20-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteKnight

I actually like the SCION stamped in... ever since 5Axis built the 1st Gen green wide body tC and they stamped SCION onto the front bumper... it likes kinda clean IMO

Me too. I like it. Kinda reminds me of how they used to say Toytoa or Celica on the back

tranzformer · 04-20-2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by phyre76

Curb weight around what you said, 2850lbs.

You really are going on this being on the heavy side of things?

ichitaka05 · 04-20-2011, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer

You really are going on this being on the heavy side of things?

Well, he's looking at the worse side. If it's lighter than that, it's always a plus

Crashoverride · 04-20-2011, 01:34 PM

Wow much better.. were do I put my deposit down...I'll take mine in turbo, blue, and the top of the line model please... when can I expect to pick it up?

phyre76 · 04-20-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by zigzagz94

I like the blend between MkI and MkII. Good Job Scion.

Here's the thing. Look closely. The shape of everything is FT 86II. They took off the Carbon Fiber front difuser & lower grille edge, LEDs, lights are the same shape and placements, but with different internal styling. And the "Scion" accross the back. It just looks like a combo of the 2 versions, but it really isn't. Its the FT 86II without the nifty Car show mods, lol. Pesonally I hated that rear spoiler. It looked like an afterthought.

ichitaka05 · 04-20-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Crashoverride

Wow much better.. were do I put my deposit down...I'll take mine in turbo, blue, and the top of the line model please... when can I expect to pick it up?

LOL I would wait til we see the final product ver & spec (prob in TIAS).

TRDMAN · 04-20-2011, 01:36 PM

hey snohomish man we'll have to start a car club.

SUB-FT86 · 04-20-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by phyre76

agreed. I didn't want to say the same thing someone else said. I've had mostly Toyota's. I love my Scion tC. I've been watching this 086 platform since early 2007. I knew this would come out and said it should be a Scion, because of the Market. Who cares if it's a Scion or Toyota. It's like saying Toyota and Lexus are 2 different manufacturers! They're the same company. Scions are built in Lexus plants, in Japan. Their quality is no different than that of a Toyota OR Lexus. If it's a Toyota, Scion OR Lexus, I'd buy it, because I know it will be a great car.

Yea I totally love the looks of the 86, although I wish they wouldn't call it the FR-S...GOD that sounds stupid. How about S86, or 086, or Z86 (as in Zero), or just plain ol' 86!

Anyhoo. I guestimate the specs to be about the same. Mostlikely 200HP/170-180# tq (Scion would mostlikely keep the numbers sorta similar to tC, but better 2011 tC: 180hp/173tq @ 4400rpms), Curb weight around what you said, 2850lbs. 6sp stick/tip auto tranny. If they went low for the torque, it wouldn't be lower than 162tq@4000rpms that was on the 05-10 tCs. If they did 140lbs tq, it would be just another Civic Si like coupe. No thank you.

People want and talk about crazy power numbers, and are trying to compare the car to a 370Z! But you really can't. And they're not even in the same price range. Even the non turbo Supra was waaay out of the the pricerange that this car will be in. For the the Price (it's a Scion, so it WILL be inexpensive.) and it's coming from Toyota/Scion I know it will be a great car. I can't wait to drive it!

The reason I quoted a low torque output is because of displacement. The old TC and new TC had a extra .4 liters than this boxer engine. You will be disappointed by the torque unless they use a 2.5/DI engine which I think is the best bet.

Fly Guy · 04-20-2011, 01:37 PM

Oh my gosh! I love this one the best of all. Really like the sculpted rear fenders and the trunk looks so clean without the wing.

ichitaka05 · 04-20-2011, 01:41 PM

bout 35mins to go~~~

tranzformer · 04-20-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

bout 35mins to go~~~

I have 57 min to go by my watch. 1:40pm EST.

impulse · 04-20-2011, 01:45 PM

I was expecting the Scion concept to look like crap but...

WTH. I'm in love. o_o;

ichitaka05 · 04-20-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer

I have 57 min to go by my watch. 1:40pm EST.

Really? In the Scion site, it shows 35... well 33 now

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