03-04-2015, 01:42 PM | #85 |
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I always just show people this video. It drives the point home better than anything else:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2wTg0l3_wI"]Winter Snow Tires vs All-Season Tires vs Summer Tires testing on Ice - YouTube[/ame] |
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It kinda disturbs me that the dealership never even mentioned to me that the OEM tires were summer tires. Not that I didn't know, but I'm sure a typical buyer wouldn't have known on their own.
EDIT: especially considering I bought the car in January when it was definitely freezing cold. Last edited by PandaSPUR; 03-04-2015 at 01:55 PM. |
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just like @PandaSPUR
i usually dont drive when snow or salty road. 1-3 inches and weather looked warm enough to melt and my wife needed camry today. so i was like "what the heck!" should be ok" when it's about 4:00pm snow accumulation is increasing and "this is not going to be 1-3 inches" yup. i drove with stock summer tires through these damm snows. yeah get winter tires or avoid driving on snow. |
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I thought the same thing! What happens if the dealer sells a BRZ in CO in the winter and the new owner gets in an accident on the way home? I am guessing that the dealer could be sued for letting them leave the lot with summer tires during winter. And I have had all-season tires my whole life. I did not know that summer tires were an absolute No-No until that incident had me look into it. Now with my Hankook Snow tires, I was forced to go around & pass 4X4s this morning that just had no clue how to drive in the snow. |
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Typical car owner mentality when it comes to rubber: 7 year old tires that are cracked with dry rot? Perfectly fine as long as it isn't at the wear bars. |
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I had my first proper snow commute in the BRZ yesterday. I've driven it in the snow before but when I knew that the roads & highways would be completely covered I would take my TT. I have a long commute so I'm usually not in the mood to experiment but I decided to finally see how it would do.
It was a hell of a lot better than I thought it would be even on the few hills that I had to deal with. I even got to get a laugh as I was passing the cars that were stuck or spinning out (including the usual 2 or 3 BMWs) and the stopped truck facing the wrong way on the other side of the highway was interesting to see too. On partially or completely covered highway I was still able to drive comfortably at 35-45 mph and changing lanes through the slush wasn't too bad at all. As long as you are steady and deliberate with your throttle inputs and don't over-react to things it really does a nice job in the snow.
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If you were on the stockers, then hats off to you- you're a great driver. No sarcasm- snow driving takes a thorough understanding of physics and/or a looot of blizzard seat time. My college calculus teacher used to drive us up to Mt Hood in Washington (THE worst mountain to drive to in the state) in a '91 Echo with all-seasons and every time, we got there safely and back. I've also almost been killed riding with mates who weren't goofing off in more well equipped rigs, but just didn't understand friction, force normal vs force weight, etc. For the average driver, this car set up from the factory is a death sentence in any snow or ice condition |
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Problem is that most people don't know that they're average drivers in the snow (at best). Also, it doesn't really matter how "good" a driver has been in the past when they hit ice (the video above clearly illustrates this). Really, both of these points are evidenced by many of the posts in this thread with some peeps calling themselves good snow drivers on summer tires. Bottom line for me is, if you're going to drive in the snow, get winter tires.
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Being a good driver in the snow in any car takes practice no matter what you are driving but as far as this car goes, it really isn't meant for the average driver even when it's not being driven in the snow IMO.
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Ya, I thought the same thing when they sold my BRZ to me in November in the snow belt. Also thought it was funny that it had summer tires and a dash switch for "snow". |
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