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Old 05-11-2014, 09:57 PM   #953
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Saw one of those units last weekend....actually I heard it first. DAMN is that thing noisy. I had a 455 Olds jet drive ski boat with direct drive cam gear and it wasn't that loud. Baseline performance was 205 h.p. with some type of minor tune. Was not impressed.
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Old 05-11-2014, 10:47 PM   #954
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Saw one of those units last weekend....actually I heard it first. DAMN is that thing noisy. I had a 455 Olds jet drive ski boat with direct drive cam gear and it wasn't that loud. Baseline performance was 205 h.p. with some type of minor tune. Was not impressed.
Nobody here has that low of power though, now mine with base tune was about that but when it was final tuned it 257mustang dyno and 280ish dynojet. Far from not impressive.

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Saw one of those units last weekend....actually I heard it first. DAMN is that thing noisy. I had a 455 Olds jet drive ski boat with direct drive cam gear and it wasn't that loud. Baseline performance was 205 h.p. with some type of minor tune. Was not impressed.

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Old 05-11-2014, 11:30 PM   #956
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btw, does the tuner kit come with map sensor? i don't have a map sensor in my kit.
It's should, but like you they fudge that up as well. Including smooth idler's than cogged.
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My kraftwerks install review. The roller coaster I never want to ride again.

First starting out it should be known that I bought my kit from a friend who did not install the kit. Brand new in box.

Starting on Friday me and a friend tore into the install. The instructions are ok for the first few parts but need some polish. The first setback was the crank pulley bolt. I had installed the Perrin crank pulley a year or so ago and it refused to come off. Using the biggest breaker bar that could fit in the garage and not hit the ceiling it let go with a snap. I thought I broke the bolt. Luckily it was just the bolt had seized to the anodized aluminum of the Perrin pulley.

I examine the bolt, no issues, torque to factory spec which I found online as 95ftlbs. Tip Kraftwerks, seeing “Torque to factory spec” is infuriating. I understand professional installation is required but do us all a favor and put what the torque value is. Throw us a bone.

Everything is going to plan until mounting the plate to the engine. Missing the M10 25mm 1.25 bolt. Fuck. Not in any of the boxes. Dead in the water at 11pm on friday.

So I get up at 6am saturday and head to Home Depot. They have an M10 25mm bolt but it’s 1.50 thread pitch. I’m screwed. So I stand in the isle and manage to find a grade 8 bolt that is a little longer but will work.

We begin working on the car at 8 am with some help from friends. Everything goes smoothly until burping the oil for the supercharger.

The method of unplugging the injectors is terrible. We skipped it. Holding down the gas pedal 100% will turn the car over without fuel. Why not suggest that method?

I digress. We end up flooding the engine somehow. I think I know why…

I had my tune from delicious on friday. The only problem is that around 2pm I get a text from Visconti asking about my MAP sensor. Asking which one I had. Told him 4bar honda. He’s like wut? So I send him pics. He says that’s the 2 bar.

So when I bought the kit my friend upgraded to the 4 bar but when I got it from him only got the 2 bar. No worries. John sends me a tune, the car fires right up. It’s pissed because it was drowning in gas but it clears it fast. We spend the next 15 minutes adding and checking oil levels until it’s good. Used almost the whole bottle.

Visconti asks for idle and putz logs. We putz it around the neighborhood and send him logs. We put the front bumper on and it goes on without a single issue. I get a new tune from Visconti, asks for WOT logs. I take it to the highway on ramp and do 2 logs. Come back home and send logs and wait.

Take shower, go get food. Car is driving fine. Get call from Visconti, says everything looks really good and that the tune I’m on was crafted after he spent the previous week doing a dyne tune for the same kit. So I’m on my way home and hear a weird noise. Like odd belt noise.

Pull over, pop hood, kraftwerks belt is coming off main pulley .The pulley bolt is coming out. Panic sets in. Get a friend to pick me up, get all the tools i can carry and we undo all the bolts and check it. It’s fine, just came out. We get the belts off and this time torque to 125ftlbs. Start the car, no issues. Cogged belt is a little chewed up so now I need a new one but it’s not bad at all.

Let this be a lesson. I could have lost my car because of this. There needs to be some major bold or red text on the pulley part. Torque amounts must be in the instructions. Had that bolt come fully out my car would be dead.

I need a new cogged belt, will replace my stock belt at the same time, and new under ware.
I agree "Torque to specs" is very lame.
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I was there Friday in person and they told me the map is not included. Geez. I had to buy one. Right there. I thought it would come with one as well, I was pretty surprised they were saying that it didn't.

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I should, @Mike from Moto-East is putting together one and it came with it. Thats why he sent me a updated tune but mine is missing as well.
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Couldn't agree more. I've been sourcing DIY guides to help with that.

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I should, @Mike from Moto-East is putting together one and it came with it. Thats why he sent me a updated tune but mine is missing as well.
I'll have to call them about it for sure then. Seems like it should have. Strange to tell someone to their face it's not included though... crossing my fingers for a refund on it.

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Old 05-12-2014, 12:03 AM   #961
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It's should, but like you they fudge that up as well. Including smooth idler's than cogged.
well, they guaranty that they will replace the smooth pulleys with cogged for free, so it's fine.

now this kit though requires a new MAP sensor to utilize full potential of the blower, so I can't imagine they wouldn't include it for tuner kits? As far as I remember I didn't see anywhere saying that MAP sensor is part of the kit w EcuTek and that it's not included with tuner kits?

From their website on tuner kit:

Note: Compatible with both Manual and Automatic Transmission.
Does not include shipping. (International orders may incur Import/Duties Fees in addition to shipping)
Does not include tuning.
Does NOT include EcuTek Cable or License
Picture shown is pre-production kit.

From their website on kit w/ Tuning (EcuTek):

Note: Compatible with both Manual and Automatic Transmission.
Does not include shipping.(International orders may incur Import/Duties Fees in addition to shipping fee)
Picture shown is pre-production kit.
Includes EcuTek Cable and License
Kraftwerks maps were developed in conjunction with by Bill Knose of Delicious Tuning

Will call them tomorrow.
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Old 05-12-2014, 01:59 AM   #962
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Done for now... I just hope @KraftWerks will make it right.
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Interesting I got my kit from one of the forum vendors without Ecutek and it came with Honda map sensor, I wonder if it's 2 bar and if so I should replace it with 3 or 4 bar map sensor ..but since it comes with the kit it should be fine I guess..
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Interesting I got my kit from one of the forum vendors without Ecutek and it came with Honda map sensor, I wonder if it's 2 bar and if so I should replace it with 3 or 4 bar map sensor ..but since it comes with the kit it should be fine I guess..
That's what I mean...
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Done for now... I just hope @KraftWerks will make it right.
So that's where the filter goes. I could not understand the directions and did not put mine there.
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Interesting I got my kit from one of the forum vendors without Ecutek and it came with Honda map sensor, I wonder if it's 2 bar and if so I should replace it with 3 or 4 bar map sensor ..but since it comes with the kit it should be fine I guess..
I think it's 2.5 bar.
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