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Old 03-22-2012, 01:00 PM   #897
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75 month loan?! Wow dude (sarcams I hope)
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Old 03-22-2012, 01:01 PM   #898
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Both the GC and the FRS are not "pure" sports cars. They are both sporty coupes in two different size classes. In order for the FRS to be pure it would need to get rid of the back seat and push the engine back further therefore making it optimally balanced, lighter and more focused instead of hauling kids or people in the back. A Miata, Elise and a S2000 follows what I just mention 100%. That's the true definition of NO COMPROMISES.
Well said there SUB.
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Old 03-22-2012, 01:02 PM   #899
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where do you guys go to really experience the handling of a car? I'm not trying to poke at anyone I just really want to know. I dont think of myself as a RAR power hungry driver, but i enjoy acceleration, on my daily commute, its a bunch of boring straight roads, red lights, traffic etc, and the smile comes from hauling ass getting onto the freeway etc.
I live in so cal, i go to a track day maybe 2 times a year, i'm by no means a racer or expert, so the straight line performance is really the only thing that I see on a day to day basis...because of that, i can see people's point who are like wtf 25k is too much because for that money, the mustangs and gencoupes will be, i feel, more enjoyable day to day.
So yeah, sorry for the long rant, but do most of you guys do A LOT of track driving or live in areas where theres enjoyable twisty roads?

I go to the Track personally. Twisty roads only get you so far. You fear hitting a tree or passing traffic traveling in the opposite direction. At the Track, you have run-off room and everyone is going in the same direction, so you can go flat out and not worry about a dear darting out in front of you.


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Dragon, you surprised by the pricing that Scion went with?
I anticipated $22-23k. This was largely based on the rumor of the BRZ being $25k. But the new price of the FR-S, I don't forsee the BRZ being $25k now. It will be more. And the people saying the FR-S is to expensive and it's helping them chose the BRZ now...are not even considering that. I think they will swing right back on over to this side of the fence when the price of the BRZ comes in.


For me....I have hp in my current car. And I like hp just as much as anyone else. But I'm buying this car....not for that. I'm buying the "Potential" of it. And that's worth the $24,930 to me.
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Old 03-22-2012, 01:04 PM   #900
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Seems like toyota and subaru really missed the mark on these cars. I mean hp,weight,fuel efficiency, and price.
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I think Scion intentionally let that .pdf leak with a lower figure just to soften the blow when the real price after DPH went live a few days later. haha
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75 month loan?! Wow dude (sarcams I hope)


Hopefully my 15k down and 36 month loan i can do for either BRZ/FRS
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Sports cars I would consider to be any 2-door Porsche car, Corvettes, GT-Rs
I call BS on this. First of all Porsche base models are meant to appeal to the luxury market, not the sports car market. They are refined, expensive, luxurious daily drivers. There's really no reason to call a 911 a pure sports car and then the 86 a "sporty car" other then one has a 4x price tag and simple brand snobbery. In many ways the 86 is a more stripped down experience, it weighs hundreds of pounds less for one.

GTRs also come standard with navigation, leather seats, and a bunch of other junk. Again, besides the 5x price tag, what is the huge difference? The GTR was developed to make doing laps easy, the 86 was developed to make doing laps fun. You want to call one a pure sports car over the other? Why?
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I think Scion intentionally let that .pdf leak with a lower figure just to soften the blow when the real price after DPH went live a few days later. haha
Lol hit the nail on the head xD. But is the price really ok for their target demographics i wonder?
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Oh yeah you got it down haha, with that though I would def go for the BRZ, with good credit that should be like high 300s a month. You are Sir are game.
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The good thing about the FR-S being priced at $24,930 is that it is less likely that dealers will be able to tack on "market adjustment" pricing. It appears that Scion has already done so. Sure a few may try it in the first couple months of availability but the car will be a lot less "in demand" at $25K then it would have been at $23K.

I expect these cars to be in ample supply by late September or October. There may even be some sort of extra incentives offered by then. If not Scion the perhaps Subaru. We will have to wait and see if I am right.
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With good credit, you can do a 75 month loan.
With no student loan defaults and paying off my entire credit card bill at the end of every month has given me a credit score in the 750s at the ripe old age of 23, without any major purchases such as a car. Still, anyone who needs a 6+ year car loan probably shouldn't be buying that car.
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I'll go with a used 370z
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I anticipated $22-23k. This was largely based on the rumor of the BRZ being $25k. But the new price of the FR-S, I don't forsee the BRZ being $25k now. It will be more. And the people saying the FR-S is to expensive and it's helping them chose the BRZ now...are not even considering that. I think they will swing right back on over to this side of the fence when the price of the BRZ comes in.


For me....I have hp in my current car. And I like hp just as much as anyone else. But I'm buying this car....not for that. I'm buying the "Potential" of it. And that's worth the $24,930 to me.


So what will happen if the BRZ is actually priced closer to the FRS?
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So what will happen if the BRZ is actually priced closer to the FRS?
The BRZ will be priced close to the FR-S but it has a few more base options. Don't forget the NAV system and other interior bits that come standard on the subie.

Edmunds has the BRZ at 25,300 est. and I don't see that being to far off.

Edit: with the idea that getting the same options on the FR-S will cause price parity. I can't speak for getting the BRZ at invoice but that's just more price speculation.
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