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Old 05-19-2014, 07:56 PM   #71
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... are you funnin me?


2157 = 108% of 1998.
Nah, you're taking car of that yourself bro :P


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Well this kind of got off topic quickly.

Church Automotive's S2000 has a factory F20C (1997cc) with a C30-94 blower running around 15psi of boost and ~560-600hp with E85. All he did was change the pulley out and tune it. You can find this car in the Import Tuner 2013 FR Shootout.

Either way, congratulations on your purchase @TmP. You will enjoy the generic FI lifestyle. Did you go straight to the C38-81 option?
C30 for now. No tuners in MX, no e85 either. The factory flash will serve my needs for now.
It's just good to know that there's room to grow.
(As this chassis desperately needs it...)
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Old 05-19-2014, 07:58 PM   #72
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C30 for now. No tuners in MX, no e85 either. The factory flash will serve my needs for now.
It's just good to know that there's room to grow.
(As this chassis desperately needs it...)
Hope it all works out for you well. Will you be getting a MAP sensor too? You might want to look into dialing in your footwork before looking into more power. Balance is key.
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IDK...
Doesn't the kit come with one?

Footwork as in wheels?
I am shopping for 235s on wider wheels right now.
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Old 05-19-2014, 08:02 PM   #74
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Doesn't the kit come with one?

Footwork as in wheels?
I am shopping for 235s on wider wheels right now.
Might want to consider 225/245/255 as opposed to 235s unless you're leaning on trying to change the gearing a bit.
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7.5 " wheels it looks like, so 245 would be pushing it.
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7.5 " wheels it looks like, so 245 would be pushing it.
Stick with 225 max.
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Lots of tires in 245 are rated 7.5 min.
Just saying

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/bfg-03762
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Lots of tires in 245 are rated 7.5 min.
Just saying

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/bfg-03762
You're better off sticking to stock tires if you're planning to run those BFG tires.

You can run 87 octane in your BRZ/FRS if you want. Is it good? No. Can it be done? Yes.
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I'm sorry but this is such a biased opinion. LOL

2157 cc engine if you really want to get technical vs. 1998 cc engine.

There is no replacement for displacement. The f22 has about 8% larger displacement and you can't calculate 8% more displacement as a straight calculation.

You might as well be comparing an LS7 to any 4cyl, because its asinine to say "that engine is weak because this bigger engine with the same boost level makes more power". Which is, in a nutshell, your comparison of the two.
Incorrect. A C15 at 6 psi, is not the same as a C38 at 6 psi. However, we're talking identical superchargers, forcing an identical amount of pressure into different engines.

If you put a C30-94 on a LS7, it'll lose power.

I don't see how my statement is an opinion, when it's just pure numbers.
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Incorrect. A C15 at 6 psi, is not the same as a C38 at 6 psi. However, we're talking identical superchargers, forcing an identical amount of pressure into different engines.

If you put a C30-94 on a LS7, it'll lose power.

I don't see how my statement is an opinion, when it's just pure numbers.

Your opinion on the fa20 being the limitation because it doesn't make the same power as a larger displacement engine with the same mods.


That is, in fact, your opinion and it is biased.
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And he is right.

2.0 - 270 hp
2.2 - 400 hp

10% more displacement but 48% more power. What's so freaking hard to get????
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And he is right.

2.0 - 270 hp
2.2 - 400 hp

10% more displacement but 48% more power. What's so freaking hard to get????

Man, I do not have time to explain exponential growth to you, nor the desire.

The fact that you think the 2.4l neon engine is the most impressive engine you've seen speaks novels on your arsenal on the topic.

But your ideas intrigue me, and I wish to subscribe to your news letter.
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Keep licking your elbows, I'll stick to playing with fast cars.
Note: The 86 isn't one of them. LOL

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Incorrect. A C15 at 6 psi, is not the same as a C38 at 6 psi. However, we're talking identical superchargers, forcing an identical amount of pressure into different engines.
6psi forced into two different engines (with different flow efficiencies) equals to different amounts of airmass , but 6psi into the same engine equals the same amount of airmass regardless of whether it comes from C15 or C38
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