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Old 06-26-2013, 09:57 PM   #71
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Whats the difference between the oem factory fogs that was just released.
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:03 AM   #72
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Whats the difference between the oem factory fogs that was just released.
Good Question.

I'm yet to hold the OEM kit in my hand however a few differences can be seen.

First I feel the difference between Maker option and Dealer Option must be explained.
Maker option is any optional equipment that is only put into the car at the assembly plant.
Dealer Option is any optional equipment that can be installed at any time at either the Port or at a dealership.
In General Maker option is of higher quality and fitment.

With that said, the Scion OEM fog light kit is a Dealer Option part. The kit I supply is similar to a Maker Option.

Fog light housing Differences
It appears the Scion OEM kit comes with fog light housings that have more reflector lines in them unlike the more smooth ones that I supply.


Fog light mounting Differences
I don't know why but the Scion OEM kit comes with these silly brackets for mounting the fog lights to the bumper.

The Scion OEM kit only uses these brackets.
The JDM 86, BRZ and Export model BRZ all mount the fog lights in a different way. Out kit uses the Exact same hardware for mounting the fog light housings to the bumper as the original JDM 86 and all BRZ.

Now I say the Scion OEM kit is silly because you would have to remove the front bezel to remove the fog light with any ease. Whereas the Original Equipment (JDM 86, BRZ and our kit) you can unscrew the fog light and remove it from inside the bumper without removing the bezel, just as our kit.

SWITCH Differences
The OEM kit comes with a switch that mounts on the lower left of the dash panel.
Our kit comes with a replacement turn signal stalk (more like a Maker Option).

Harness Differences
The harness that comes in the Scion OEM kit is not plug and play. The way it wires in is just like most Dealer option parts. It is not plug and play.

The way the wire harness assembly on the Scion OEM kit comes appears that it is made outside of Japan.
Our wire harness is made like the JDM 86 harness.

I will purchase a Scion OEM kit to inspect more carefully all the differences but,
I feel our product is still a viable product and the price reflects perfectly what it is worth. I will continue to make our kit available.

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I have uploaded the installation instructions online. They may be viewed at the following link:
http://www.141motors.com/services/fr...structions.pdf

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Old 07-02-2013, 04:50 PM   #73
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5 kits available at this time.

I have lowered the price to $375.00 to compete with the Scion USA Kit.
(Will not price match for previous orders. Sorry)

If you want a more "OEM from the factory type look" this is still the only kit available.

Purchase here:
http://ishiimotors.com/fr-s-fog-light-kit.html


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Old 07-02-2013, 05:01 PM   #74
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Viable? From your writeup and current lack of PIO availability for 10 Series cars, I'd say superior. If my car weren't locked at the port awaiting the OEM kit, I'd order today.
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:50 AM   #75
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***Attention FR-S Series 10 owners***

I have just installed our kit into a Series 10.
There is one difference in the kit.
The Series 10 has "AUTO" headlamps. Therefore, I will offer a new kit that comes with the correct stalk which includes the "AUTO" position on the stalk.
This will be available as a different Kit number on our web site shortly.

I have already installed the "AUTO" Position Stalk into our Series 10 FR-S and everything operates perfectly.

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Old 07-10-2013, 05:13 PM   #76
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Good Question.

I'm yet to hold the OEM kit in my hand however a few differences can be seen.

First I feel the difference between Maker option and Dealer Option must be explained.
Maker option is any optional equipment that is only put into the car at the assembly plant.
Dealer Option is any optional equipment that can be installed at any time at either the Port or at a dealership.
In General Maker option is of higher quality and fitment.

With that said, the Scion OEM fog light kit is a Dealer Option part. The kit I supply is similar to a Maker Option.

Fog light housing Differences
It appears the Scion OEM kit comes with fog light housings that have more reflector lines in them unlike the more smooth ones that I supply.


Fog light mounting Differences
I don't know why but the Scion OEM kit comes with these silly brackets for mounting the fog lights to the bumper.

The Scion OEM kit only uses these brackets.
The JDM 86, BRZ and Export model BRZ all mount the fog lights in a different way. Out kit uses the Exact same hardware for mounting the fog light housings to the bumper as the original JDM 86 and all BRZ.

Now I say the Scion OEM kit is silly because you would have to remove the front bezel to remove the fog light with any ease. Whereas the Original Equipment (JDM 86, BRZ and our kit) you can unscrew the fog light and remove it from inside the bumper without removing the bezel, just as our kit.

SWITCH Differences
The OEM kit comes with a switch that mounts on the lower left of the dash panel.
Our kit comes with a replacement turn signal stalk (more like a Maker Option).

Harness Differences
The harness that comes in the Scion OEM kit is not plug and play. The way it wires in is just like most Dealer option parts. It is not plug and play.

The way the wire harness assembly on the Scion OEM kit comes appears that it is made outside of Japan.
Our wire harness is made like the JDM 86 harness.

I will purchase a Scion OEM kit to inspect more carefully all the differences but,
I feel our product is still a viable product and the price reflects perfectly what it is worth. I will continue to make our kit available.

Ishii


Installation Instructions
I have uploaded the installation instructions online. They may be viewed at the following link:
http://www.141motors.com/services/fr...structions.pdf
I wasdeciding which kit to buy, this or the factory. I purchased the Factory Scion USA kit. Here are my conclusions.

First I feel the difference between Maker option and Dealer Option must be explained.
Maker option is any optional equipment that is only put into the car at the assembly plant.
Dealer Option is any optional equipment that can be installed at any time at either the Port or at a dealership.
In General Maker option is of higher quality and fitment.

With that said, the Scion OEM fog light kit is a Dealer Option part. The kit I supply is similar to a Maker Option.

Actually Scion USA kit is a Maker option. To prove my point, go to Scion's website. It is listed as factory accessoy and not a dealer option.

Fog light housing Differences
It appears the Scion OEM kit comes with fog light housings that have more reflector lines in them unlike the more smooth ones that I supply.

Cant really comment on this. I believe factory housing is better, I rather trust toyota than a 3rd party aftermarket.

Fog light mounting Differences
I don't know why but the Scion OEM kit comes with these silly brackets for mounting the fog lights to the bumper.

The Scion OEM kit only uses these brackets.
The JDM 86, BRZ and Export model BRZ all mount the fog lights in a different way. Out kit uses the Exact same hardware for mounting the fog light housings to the bumper as the original JDM 86 and all BRZ.

Now I say the Scion OEM kit is silly because you would have to remove the front bezel to remove the fog light with any ease. Whereas the Original Equipment (JDM 86, BRZ and our kit) you can unscrew the fog light and remove it from inside the bumper without removing the bezel, just as our kit.

Scion uses these brackets for safety precaution. These bracket creates space between the actual foglight and the housing so the fogs wont melt the housing. So i wouldnt call it silly.


SWITCH Differences
The OEM kit comes with a switch that mounts on the lower left of the dash panel.
Our kit comes with a replacement turn signal stalk (more like a Maker Option).

I like the button that the Scion factory kit uses. Less labor, you dont have to remove air bag or the steering wheel. There is a unused pre-wire under the dash that will plug right into the factory button.

Harness Differences
The harness that comes in the Scion OEM kit is not plug and play. The way it wires in is just like most Dealer option parts. It is not plug and play.

The way the wire harness assembly on the Scion OEM kit comes appears that it is made outside of Japan.
Our wire harness is made like the JDM 86 harness.

Please do your research before stating that the Scion USA is not a plug and play kit. It is 100% full plug and play kit, No splicing wires at all. Its actually the easiest foglamp install I ever did. Just plug 1 wire to the factory prewire and your all set. Almost everything is made outside USA or Japan, at least its made by toyota factory. Again I rather trust TOyota harness than homemade harness.

It was the easiest install I ever did.Factory Kit just plugs into existing plug. No modications what so ever. PLus its cheaper than this aftermaket kit and its 100% covered under warranty.
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I wasdeciding which kit to buy, this or thefactory. I purchased the Factory Scion USA kit. Here are my conclusions.
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Actually Scion USA kit is a Maker option. To prove my point, go to Scion'swebsite. It is listed as factory accessoy and not a dealer option.

They do not come from the factory, therefore a dealer option.
This Terminology I use is a Japanese expression; "Maker option" "Dealer option"
But really no matter, The whole point is there is a choice available kits. Depending on what switch you like or whatever someone might like about one kit compared to the other. I offer a different choice for people that want what our kit has to offer.




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Cant really comment on this. I believe factoryhousing is better, I rather trust toyota than a 3rd party aftermarket.
I provide Factory Subaru Fog lamps from Subaru, not aftermarket 3rdparty. They come directly from Subaru inSubaru boxes. No 3rd party aftermarket.






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Scion uses thesebrackets for safety precaution. These bracket creates space between the actualfoglight and the housing so the fogs wont melt the housing. So i wouldnt callit silly.

I still say it is silly. There is nodanger of melting anything.




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I like the button that the Scion factory kit uses.Less labor, you dont have to remove air bag or the steering wheel. There is aunused pre-wire under the dash that will plug right into the factory button.
A matter of Opinion. But this is wherethe Scion OEM kit becomes a “Dealer Option” as it can be added by the dealer.


Some people would prefer it on the turn signal stalk as that is like itwould come from the factory.
Again, Dealer option is something the dealer can add such as the Scion OEM kit. Our kit is not something standard that adealer would add as an accessory.




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Please do your research before stating thatthe Scion USA is not a plug and play kit. It is 100% full plug and play kit, Nosplicing wires at all. Its actually the easiest foglamp install I ever did.Just plug 1 wire to the factory prewire and your all set. Almost everything ismade outside USA or Japan, at least its made by toyota factory. Again I rathertrust TOyota harness than homemade harness.
I’ve done lots of research and spent lots of money doing this research. Our harnesses just plug in, no need to modify the existing harnesseslike the Scion OEM kit does.




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It was the easiest install I ever did.Factory Kitjust plugs into existing plug. No modications what so ever.


Yes,it is easy to install; So is our kit.

Icould install either kit in the same amount of time and ease.
The scion OEM kit takes longer to install the Harnesses addition as it has tobe routed up and zip tied for the ground wires. For the amount of time that takes I could put in the new Turn signalswitch


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PLus its cheaper than this aftermaket kit andits 100% covered under warranty.

You’re right, My kit is more expensive as it comes with a new Turn signalSwitch which costs a fair amount. Andcorrect no warranty from us.
it’s really a matter of how you want theswitch.


Youcould buy the Scion OEM kit and then add in the new Turn signal stalk that hasthe Fog light switch, but it would cost more money than just buying our kit.



Ido like that the OEM kit has a new switch that can be added. I’m thinking of adding in that switch tocontrol a rear Fog light, or the LEDs on the Series 10 or whatever else I wantto control because I’ll have that space available since my fog light switch isin the stalk.






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I just got my 10 series and would like to order the fog light kit, but on your website, there is no option to ship to Canada. Is this only available for the U.S. market?
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I have this kit and love the streamline feel of it. Looks factory fit.

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I have this kit and love the streamline feel of it. Looks factory fit.

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"looks factory fit." If you get the factory fog lamp, it will not look factory fit but will be factory fit and chepaer
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