Transmission... Automatic? or Manual? Thinking of buying. - Page 6 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Ultramaroon · 03-02-2021, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Can also learn to not dump the clutch. That's free!

I know how to shift JFC

Tcoat · 03-02-2021, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I know how to shift JFC

Ultramaroon · 03-02-2021, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

.

Clearly the fault of the transmission if it can't handle being shifted properly.

BrahmaBull1990 · 03-02-2021, 11:33 PM

Never gleaned so much indirect marital advice in a thread haha

soundman98 · 03-02-2021, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BrahmaBull1990

Never gleaned so much indirect marital advice in a thread haha

go hang out with a bunch of old married guys at an american legion or similar. you'd have more marital advice in half an hour than this thread.

humfrz · 03-03-2021, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I know how to shift JFC

You seem to be awfully defensive about that -

Ultramaroon · 03-03-2021, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz

You seem to be awfully defensive about that -

Did you not see this one? https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144262

humfrz · 03-03-2021, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Did you not see this one? https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144262

Oh .....

Nope I missed that thread.

humfrz

Ultramaroon · 03-03-2021, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz

Oh .....

Nope I missed that thread.

humfrz

Yeah. Inside jokes.

Sasquachulator · 03-03-2021, 04:57 PM

Looking at the used market around here...

theres a surprising amount of automatic equipped cars......

Ernest72 · 03-03-2021, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

Looking at the used market around here...

theres a surprising amount of automatic equipped cars......

Not really surprising. This is an enthusiast car, since most want an MT the AT sit for longer so you are more likely to see them. It’s pretty common for many enthusiast cars. For example I can tell if a Porsche 993 or 964 is an AT based on its price. The AT is a great commuter.

Dake · 03-03-2021, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

But, unless you special ordered the car, you aren't +1 the number sold. If it's a spec car, it would have sold anyway. It's not like there is a secret lot where all the unsold MT transmission cars go to die or something.

Now if you are special ordering the car, then yes, you MAY be contributing to the overall volume, but even then, it's likely not. The Manufacturer already has planned how many MT cars the plan to build in a given model year, and now just configure one of them to your specific requirements.

While this is technically correct (the best kind of correct), dealers and manufacturers do notice how long something sits on the lot. If they get 3 ATs and 2 MTs, and the MTs take 30 days longer to sell, then when next year rolls around, they may only send 1 MT for every 3 ATs. It doesn't matter as much that it sells eventually - they want it to sell faster.

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Originally Posted by Ernest72

Not really surprising. This is an enthusiast car, since most want an MT the AT sit for longer so you are more likely to see them. It’s pretty common for many enthusiast cars. For example I can tell if a Porsche 993 or 964 is an AT based on its price. The AT is a great commuter.

The manual uptake on the FRS/86 was only about 33% a couple years ago (though the BRZ was an impressive 78%).

So it stands to reason that at least with a Scion/Toyota badge - 2 out of 3 used examples are auto.

Dadhawk · 03-03-2021, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dake

The manual uptake on the FRS/86 was only about 33% a couple years ago (though the BRZ was an impressive 78%).

But again, that's because they built them that way. Toyota knows their buyers tend to want AT and Subaru knew would sell better as MT.

The "uptake" phrase continues to imply everyone that had bought an AT had a choice. They did not. There's a good percentage of the AT buyers that wanted an MT but "settled" or didn't care enough to wait. The "uptake" would have been higher if the inventory was there, in theory. It's also very possible a large portion of the BRZ sales are attributable to the simple fact there was MT available across town while Toyota only had AT on the lot (given the build division).

In the end, its a bit of a circular argument.

Dake · 03-03-2021, 10:31 PM

Well, there's some chicken and egg going on here, but I'll just say: I can't wrap my mind around the idea of walking in wanting a manual and walking out with an auto. It's not like when the restaurant is out of the special and you just get a burger.

Like, I "settled" for Whiteout when I wanted Argento b/c there were none to be had. But AT instead of MT? No way.

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