Spec Twin?

[imnotsureaboutbrz]

Originally Posted by TrqlessWonder

For what I would imagine would be a typical regional alaska event (that is, small enough that index is the major measure), the benefit would be a slightly more specific index to work from. Whether or not that index would be more accurate is a different question. But it would be more specific. And that at least teases with the implied promise of it not being terribly unfair.

Otherwise, I would expect no adverse impact. Just might be another low-turnout class for you locally. I can't imagine you have deep classes in much of anything that isn't a larger index class anyhow. What do you do about 1-car classes now?

Yup 2 car in classes in cs-hs, 3-4 in ss-bs, 1 in st_ classes. We have on average 25-30 regulars. In our group we pretty much compete for FTD in Raw and PAX

[2superblus]

Originally Posted by imnotsureaboutbrz

So what's the perk or advantage of this hypothetical "Spec Twin" class? Especially for SCCA regions/groups (like mine) where there are few 86's being ran...

The other advantage would be that they can remove the CS and DS 2013-2016 twins and they still have an awesome place to go.

This is a great idea with a car that has very good aftermarket support and is getting very reasonable to buy used.

[Biggins]

Originally Posted by 2superblus

The other advantage would be that they can remove the CS and DS 2013-2016 twins and they still have an awesome place to go.

Some of us have/want the "baller" shocks to run in regular street classes against a variety of cars. I don't mind running in CS and do well enough locally to stay entertained. If a twin wins DS this year (which is very possible), what is the plan?

This is a great idea with a car that has very good aftermarket support and is getting very reasonable to buy used.

If it's a spec class, does it even matter if it has good aftermarket support when there's a prescribed formula?

[Shark_Bait88]

So who is gonna be the first on site that can give us real info?

[ApexEight]

I would imagine there wouldn't be anything concrete until Nationals.

[G_Ride]

Originally Posted by Biggins

Some of us have/want the "baller" shocks to run in regular street classes against a variety of cars. I don't mind running in CS and do well enough locally to stay entertained. If a twin wins DS this year (which is very possible), what is the plan?


If it's a spec class, does it even matter if it has good aftermarket support when there's a prescribed formula?

If a twin does win DS, I don't see the spec class happening. However, my money is on Mark Scroggs to win in the Camaro.

[Briankbot]

This is what's on display at Nats. No other info so far. Eibach bars/springs, sealed Koni's, and 8in wheels to the best of my knowledge.

[14stu]

That's the SPC adjustable rear lower control arm, explains their sticker. I bet they include the SPC front camber bolts too.

[xwd]

Yeah so far we know the class will be called SSC. 17x8 wheels, 225/45/17 tires, Eibach springs/bars, Koni shocks, SPC front camber bolts.

[14stu]

Since TireRack is a title sponsor, I dug around to find the parts that will most likely be in the spec kit (maybe they'll bundle them all together):

Shocks and Springs looks like around $1000

SPC Camber Bolts $24

Eibach Sway Bars $515

TR Motorsport Wheels $676

Hankook RS4 (225/45/17) $533

SPC Adjustable Rear Lower Control Arms $313

All in looks like just over $3k ($3061), throw in a turndown style straight pipe catback and allignment+corner balance and you can set up the whole thing from scratch for $3500-$4000.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by 14stu

SPC Camber Bolts $24

Looks like the lower 14mm bolt so you can put the non-tapered bolt in the top hole for max camber, should be good for about -2 degrees or so.

idk if I wanted to save money I'd go run DS with off the shelf Koni's and OE springs, but the RS4 spec tire is interesting. I wonder if it'll go back to the days of junking tires with 50-60 runs on them, which would be a backwards step from the RE71R/Rivals... But I'm sure that was considered, right? ... right?

[Locust]

Spec class confirmed. E-mails going out now... ish. I didnt get one but someone else did. Here's the contents:

New Solo Spec Coupe Class Unveiled for SCCA Autocross Competition

TOPEKA, Kan. (Sept. 4, 2017) -- The Sports Car Club of America® officially announced today the creation of a new Solo Spec Coupe (SSC) class for autocross competition. The new supplemental class for 2018 national and regional events was developed to be unique in that it primarily focuses on a competitor's driving skill by having racers participate in nearly identical cars.

Mike Cobb, SCCA President & CEO, said SSC leverages the knowledge and market strength of longtime Club partners Tire Rack, Koni, Eibach and SPC Performance to produce a turnkey competition platform that is both cost efficient and fun.

"When you take an exciting car model and add great partner support, a dedicated Solo Spec Coupe class in which to play, and terrific drivers, you get an outstanding SCCA member experience we're sure many people will enjoy," Cobb said.

The base platform selected by the Solo Events Board will be the 2013 to 2016 Subaru BRZ or Scion FRZ. Howard Duncan, SCCA Rally/Solo Senior Director, said the BRZ and FRZ were selected because the cars are modestly priced, rear-wheel drive, late model enthusiast vehicles useful as both a "daily driver" and for autocross competition.

"These cars offer aftermarket modifications embraced by enthusiasts who enjoy the driving experience," Duncan said. "The vehicles are readily available and modifications fairly simple. The cars have shown reliability, which should help with cost containment. And a street ride can be maintained for daily use while also allowing for fun autocross performance. It's a very positive package all around."


Vehicles will be able to compete with original equipment. But the Solo Spec Coupe will also have a two-stage upgrade option. Tire Rack is SCCA's Stage 1 Performance Package coordinating partner. The components will be offered to SCCA® members at a discounted price, and an opportunity for non-members to join the Club before purchase. Drivers interested in the package can learn more at Tire Rack's SSC webpage, but the basic elements include:
- Koni Sport Shocks, factory sealed (front left strut, right front strut and rear)
- Eibach Pro-Plus Kit (F/R springs and F/R adjustable anti-roll bars)
- SPC Front Alignment Kit (camber bolts, adjustable lower control arms and toe arms)

Tire Rack is also the preferred supplier of the Stage 2 Performance Package that includes 17"x 8" wheels, running a minimum of 17 pounds with minimum offset of 40 millimeters. There will also be a 225/45R17 spec tire used in SSC with a minimum 200 treadwear. The specific spec tire brand will be named later this year.

A Stage 3 Performance Package, consisting of a PCM/ECU retuning module, is currently being researched and considered for future use.

For components not specifically listed in the Stage 1 or Stage 2 Packages, the Solo Street Category allowances will apply. Vehicles will be allowed to compete "under prepared" without all permitted modifications being installed. Where applicable, Solo Spec Coupe cars can also compete in the STX class.

For more information, please visit the SCCA Solo Spec Coupe webpage.

The Sports Car Club of America®, Inc., founded in 1944, is a 67,500-member motorsports organization that incorporates all facets of autocross, rally and road racing at both club and professional levels. With headquarters in Topeka, Kansas, the SCCA annually sanctions over 2,000 events through its 116 Regions and subsidiary divisions. Much of the SCCA's activities are made possible with support from the following Official Partners: Chevrolet, the Official Truck of the SCCA; Hawk Performance, the Official Brake Products of SCCA; Mobil 1, the Official Oil of SCCA; Sunoco, the Official Fuel of SCCA; and Tire Rack, the Official Tire Retailer of SCCA. To learn more, please visit www.scca.com.

[dutchman1]

Guess the 2017s aren't included either, which makes sense for a spec class. But it still leaves em all stuck in CS with the ND lol.

[G_Ride]

Originally Posted by Locust

Spec class confirmed. E-mails going out now... ish. I didnt get one but someone else did. Here's the contents:

That's interesting. I could see a lot of interest from DS twins.