2017 Red Manifold

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

Peeing against the tide, man.

Ya, I frequently do. On occasion I have managed to push the tide back though.

[CatDaddysBBQ]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

5 or 6 ATs built for every MT.

No way, I read about a year ago that it was 60-70% sales in favor of the manual. While that may not be accurate, it's hardly the 10% you are claiming.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by CatDaddysBBQ

No way, I read about a year ago that it was 60-70% sales in favor of the manual. While that may not be accurate, it's hardly the 10% you are claiming.

My number could of course be way off since I pulled it out of my ass based on the mix I have seen in Canada but it doesn't change the fact that the MT is a rapidly disappearing feature.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by CatDaddysBBQ

No way, I read about a year ago that it was 60-70% sales in favor of the manual. While that may not be accurate, it's hardly the 10% you are claiming.

For sale listings show a 55%MT / 45%AT split. This car's customer base is definitely MUCH more manual focused than your typical 'performance car'.








-Josh

[DarkSunrise]

For the FR-S, 52% were sold with a manual. For the BRZ, it was 70%.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...on-doomed.html

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

For the FR-S, 52% were sold with a manual. For the BRZ, it was 70%.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...on-doomed.html

There we go! My ass was wrong again.
My point remains unchanged.

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

There we go! My ass was wrong again.
My point remains unchanged.

Yeah MT is a dying breed for sure.

[one2onejackpot]

Originally Posted by GTHachiRoku

Definitely! I wonder if the change is due to similar reasons Mitsubishi changed theirs on the Evo X from metal to plastic. They realized plastic was ok at stock heat levels. However, swapping to metal was always one of the first recommendations from tuners as the heat was too much for the plastic when pushed beyond stock hp. We all know these cars run hot stock, so maybe this is more of a preventative measure.

These cars do run very hot. Maybe an OEM Forester XT oil cooler is the way to go.

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

Yeah MT is a dying breed for sure.

10 years ago I had a tough time trying to even find a CPO E46 with a stick shift. All the dealer lots had were automatics despite what I always heard about Bimmer drivers being stick shift elitists.

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by krayzie

All the dealer lots had were automatics despite what I always heard about Bimmer drivers being stick shift elitists.

Haha I guess that might still be true relative to the other 2 luxury German marques. A lot of sporty Audi and MB-AMG models don't even have a manual option anymore since people hardly bought them.

At least with the next-gen 86, it will definitely be offered with a manual since the take rate was so high on the first-gens.

[norcalpb]

Damn $400 for the manifold...

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

Haha I guess that might still be true relative to the other 2 luxury German marques. A lot of sporty Audi and MB-AMG models don't even have a manual option anymore since people hardly bought them.

At least with the next-gen 86, it will definitely be offered with a manual since the take rate was so high on the first-gens.

If it isn't a hybrid!

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

If it isn't a hybrid!

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

This is correct. new intake won't gain 5hp. It's due to other component that make MY17 feels like gaining more power.

If I wanna upgrade the intake manifold, I want this... but of course, it's impossible to get one Orz

Still wondering why they didn't use this manifold and designed a new one ...