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Read this excellent article a while back. Commerical fusion power will be a pipe dream for many decades to come.
https://thebulletin.org/2017/04/fusi...cked-up-to-be/ |
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Interesting conclusion: "Terrestrial fusion energy is not the ideal energy source extolled by its boosters, but to the contrary: It’s something to be shunned."
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I’m sure some day they will figure it out.
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This covers several emerging technologies and companies, including the last one posted. They are proposing much smaller fusion reactors than the huge tokamak reactor being developed. Seems like AI will figure this out using models far faster.
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Scientists achieve a breakthrough in nuclear fusion. Here’s what it means.
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Thanks for posting that ^
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I do not know if this applies: "Escalation of commitment is a human behavior pattern in which an individual or group facing increasingly negative outcomes from a decision, action, or investment nevertheless continue the behavior instead of altering course. The actor maintains behaviors that are irrational, but align with previous decisions and actions. Economists and behavioral scientists use a related term, sunk-cost fallacy, to describe the justification of increased investment of money or effort in a decision, based on the cumulative prior investment ("sunk cost") despite new evidence suggesting that the future cost of continuing the behavior outweighs the expected benefit." Wiki
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Scientists and engineers who continue to get funding will never stop working on this problem until they realize it is impossible to turn lead into gold. We just don't know that it is impossible, and as long as it is possible, it seems worth the investment. Like Elon Musk said, when referring to space travel, in summary, 'Society believes technology always progresses and advances, but it can regress and technology can be lost. While other technologies will advance, which could benefit rocket technology, such that if we took up the mantle in the future, we could make up time, but in general, we could also have to start over, so we need to keep investing and advancing.' There is some truth to this. We have seen lost technology throughout history, and we know it isn't easy just starting something from scratch all over again than continuing to develop something. Opponents of fusion say it just isn't necessary. There are still waste products like fission, but just less, so it isn't perfect. It still would have huge upfront costs like fission. Fission is already safe and green enough. Alternative green energy like wind and solar is cheaper and safer, so we are just wasting money. Opponents say this is a fools errand because the feasibility and core science shows this isn't viable. Hindsight is 20/20. We don't know until we know. US military budget is three-quarters of a trillion dollars. Global fusion investment is not even ten percent of that, so it is hard to know what could be done with enough investment. https://www.bloomberg.com/profession...ion-valuation/
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They've had a valid proof of concept that actually works.
Up until now, it's been purely theoretical, and a known unknown. Now it's scale that has to be developed. Hmm ... paladium markets ...
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Nobody here has done it in their shed before.
That's the big whoop.
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