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Old 01-18-2018, 05:14 PM   #813
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We don't run them because they are a 2nd tier tire. That doesn't mean they are bad. Mike Maier/Andy McKee used them on their One Lap Mustang and plenty use them in the Optima series.

Cheap, good in the wet/cold and long lasting. Not the best at any one thing, but a good all rounder and perhaps most importantly, unlikely to sell out. Makes sense. I hope they have some contingency as well.


If contingency was anything like it was in the past (thinking like 2 years ago when everyone in CAM ran their tire) it’ll be pretty damn good


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Old 01-18-2018, 05:16 PM   #814
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If contingency was anything like it was in the past (thinking like 2 years ago when everyone in CAM ran their tire) it’ll be pretty damn good


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I'm new to this but never heard of anyone running Falkens for autox. Are these the same Falkens that came out in the '00s? Or is it an updated version.

My first gut reaction to the spec tire was disappointment. Mainly because I know nothing of the tire. I certainly have less enthusiasm about this.. lol
My WRL team (endurance racing) used to run the older 615K's on their Lexus SC400 and they liked it quite a bit. Falken has since launched the 615K+ and I've heard lots of good things about them from my fellow WRL racers.

As others have mentioned, this tire is not on the pointy end for autox (like the RE71R), but it is still an excellent tire, and is supposed to last a long time. Time will tell if the tire grip falls off over the life of the tire or not.

The only disadvantage is for those of use that run in local classes that are based on PAX. Hopefully the SSC PAX is adjusted appropriately for this tire.
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Falken contingency in 2017 for Tours...

- Falken Tire (Select Classes)
Eligible Classes: 1st-$300 2nd-$200 3rd-$100
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Steady on Kyle... next thing you know, you'll be converting your car to SSC


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Old 01-18-2018, 05:43 PM   #818
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I liked the Z2 *Spec so this is actually relatively good news.
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Old 01-19-2018, 08:14 AM   #819
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I absolutely hated the Z2SS, so I'm hoping they're not quite like that tire.
What didn't you like about them? I ran them for one season when I was running a really mild STX prep and doing track days, and found them to handle dd/autox/track all quite well. Obviously weren't all that fast at autox (but then again I suck haha), I REALLY like them on track, and they weren't bad for normal driving either, wore well and weren't very noisy.

They even handled a small snow flurry during a track day surprisingly well.

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They do not deal with heat well at all. They get greasy and feel pretty bad after. I recall a set we had got fairly hot and they were trash after that day. Never recovered.

Once you go over the limit they don't recover well. Certainly not as well as the RE, Nexen or Rival. I also tend to like tires that handle like the Rival and the Z2SS was pretty much the opposite.
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I have driven the 615k+ on multiple cars, including a 90% prep'd STR S2000. They are only a couple tenths off the RE71 on like a 50 sec course. Local club stuff (50 car events) I can place top 3-5 PAX easily. I truly enjoy driving on them. They are also fantastic for lapping day stuff if you arent just SRZBNS autox. That said, they are NOT Z2SS. The rumor is the they share a similar compound but the tire construction itself is different from sources I have.

Like others have said, several One Lap cars use them. The RS Motors One Lap car runs them, and now owns the street tire record for 3 different tracks (Gingerman, Toronto MSP, Blackhawk Farms)
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Old 01-19-2018, 04:02 PM   #823
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I have driven the 615k+ on multiple cars, including a 90% prep'd STR S2000. They are only a couple tenths off the RE71 on like a 50 sec course. Local club stuff (50 car events) I can place top 3-5 PAX easily. I truly enjoy driving on them. They are also fantastic for lapping day stuff if you arent just SRZBNS autox. That said, they are NOT Z2SS. The rumor is the they share a similar compound but the tire construction itself is different from sources I have.

Like others have said, several One Lap cars use them. The RS Motors One Lap car runs them, and now owns the street tire record for 3 different tracks (Gingerman, Toronto MSP, Blackhawk Farms)
Well, you also made top 10 pax in an under-prepped DS Twin running pizza rolls at a 109 driver Chicago Region event. lol

But agreed, I think it makes a great tire for the class. Especially if people plan to do track days with the setup too, which they should after the very lengthy letter I wrote to help get an oil cooler allowance.
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Good to know they aren't the same, thanks. Have a set all ready to go so only gotta wait until next weekend for impressions.
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Old 01-19-2018, 07:33 PM   #825
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I think I've settled on the Konig Ultraform as my wheel. Any recommendations on where to order?
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Wheels and Falken Tires

So after noticing the SSC selected tire is the Falken Azenis RT615K+ 225/45-17, I realized it's the same tire I used last year for street class. Only on a 17x7 wheel. I am planning on selling the set but wondering if these would be good for someone going into SSC as well. Save them a few bucks by buying used. So here's what i have:

Motegi MR131 17x7 Silver Wheels with Falken Azenis RT615K+ 225/45-17

The wheels are 17x7 +45 offset in silver. No TPMS installed.
I was not able to find an official weight for this wheel on the Motegi web site. I find different weight listed in the specs for different sellers. Tire Rack has the black at 16.7 but the bronze at 17.3. I don’t see how the paint color could be that different. The silver must no longer be available but I found them from Amazon sellers listed at 16.94 regardless of color. But are these considered without valve stems, center caps, balance weights? My understanding for SSC is the minimum 17 lbs includes weights, caps, and stems. So you decide if they qualify for SSC or not.
I see the Konig Ultraform in 17x8 #UF87510406 has the weight also at 16.94. interesting.

The tires, Falken Azenis RT615K+ 225/45-17, are in perfect condition other than the usage. I only used these for autox and driving to and from the events. There is less than a 1000 road miles on these and about 10 autox events.

If there is interest I'll post on the market place with pics of course.
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