2013 Scion FR-S Priced at $24,200 ($24,930 after destination)

[poormans_LFA]

Originally Posted by gt86mods

Oh, and the Miata is 1k cheaper than the FR-S, guess I'm an idiot for comparing that one too haha. I'm so f*cking stupid. Jesus Christ on a crutch.

with all due respect, as a person of faith i've endured reading many such comments like the above. can't stop you from saying what you want to say but stuff like that bugs me after a while. yes and i'm not trying to start a debate on religion but seriously, please STOP.

[TylerD951]

Building a light car is expensive guys. Especially with all the required safety equipment. For those that truly understand the purpose of the GT86, 25-30k from base FR-S to the BRZ is a bargain.

[gt86mods]

Originally Posted by Alias

I kinda agree with what you're saying but it is making the frs/brz sound like a worse and worse deal in comparison (price wise, not performance wise) with its competitors.

Drive a Genesis and you'll know why I don't like it. If you consider yourself the type to value a car's handling/feel over brute power or price bargain then it won't be an issue. I feel the FR-S/BRZ is not only better made but engineered better overall and it's a pure sports car vs. the GC being a fat pig GT car with it's eyes on stealing sales from the Nissan Z.

[Capt Canuck]

The price against it's competitors is decentish enough... what really puts it in stark contrast is looking at the price on scion.com and seeing the huge gap between it and the tC.

I didn't think there was a chance in hell of there being $5.5k difference between the two.

[Oriental Life]

Originally Posted by Alias

I kinda agree with what you're saying but it is making the frs/brz sound like a worse and worse deal in comparison (price wise, not performance wise) with its competitors.

Sorry to jump in. But it will. Average Joe always looks at the price tag FIRST, then looks at the car. It will be tough competition out there and it is going to be brutal.

Stay cool and keep doing what you know the BEST. DRIVE WITH A SMILE

[Canibuz]

Originally Posted by Saibot

so that was YOU? im your liker :p

Lmao they deleted it. ********.COM FOR THE LOSE

[clayrush]

Originally Posted by xelmiradorx

u such a fanboy lol we recognize the car... we just think the car is a little over price considering the market situation in the us (comparing to other good cars such as a mustang)...well gl if you are going to buy it for me a so bye bye, so long, SAYONARA, Adios case...

Good cars and mustang should not be in the same sentence nor should Hyundai for that matter.
But i am a fanboy i guess, and i am glad my GF is gonna buy this car instead of a GTI

[track_warrior]

Ive got an erection feeling its one step closer to my hands. I cant wait to drive it around my local track!!!

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Oriental Life

Get real. I get that comparison all the time. People are not going to look at a less powerful car if its the same money. Get a reality check. Everyone understands - bigger car needs bigger engine, and if the price is the same, so what is happening?

Sorry I don't understand your point. Ok so same money, take the base 2.0T and compare it to the FRS. Within $200 of each other. So "people are not going to look at a less powerful car if its the same money." The 2.0T has 274hp and is within ~$200 of the 200hp FRS. Does that mean no one is going to look at the FRS because it is "a less powerful car if its the same money"? There will be lots of cross shopping between the two based on price.

Originally Posted by gt86mods

How does a base 3.8 GC compare to a G37 that starts at 10k more? By your argument there's no point in comparing those two.

The 3.8 and G37 are compared based on being similar cars. GT, RWD, V6, +330hp, luxury and offering similar features overall...etc. That is the reason why the 3.8 kills the G37 on value, it can offer similar features for $8-10k less. I wouldn't even look at the G37 at that price range and would go straight with the 3.8 track if I wanted a GT type car. G37 has become too expensive for what you get. Hyundai is eating away at its competitors and offering some of the best bang for the buck.

Originally Posted by gt86mods

People will be cross shopping the FR-S/BRZ against both the 2.0T and 3.8 GC, considering they are all within 3k of each other. There isn't that big of a price difference. 3k is like 45 a month difference in a car payment. If you can get 150+ more hp for under $50 a month you don't think people will consider that?

FRS is $24,930. Cheapest GC 3.8 is $29,625. $4.7k is not a small piece of change. I highly doubt someone looking at the FRS would compare the FRS to the GC 3.8 that is almost $5k more expensive. Maybe there are a few out there, I sure would like to talk to them. The 2.0T makes a much more realistic comparison since it is within $200 of each other.

Originally Posted by Oriental Life

An FR-S with options similar to the ones of a base 3.8 will be similarly priced, as well as a BRZ with leather, nav, HIDs etc will be even closer. Seem like great comparisons to me.

Didn't realize Scion offered options now?

Originally Posted by Alias

I kinda agree with what you're saying but it is making the frs/brz sound like a worse and worse deal in comparison (price wise, not performance wise) with its competitors.

Didn't realize how over priced the FRS was until now when we are comparing it to a car close to $30k. Oh well.

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

Sorry had to be done lol

I can't even go to sleep because I am laughing so hard!

[Oriental Life]

Hopeless. 4.3K posts in one year...

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Oriental Life

Hopeless. 5K posts in one year...

[JohnnyR]

Originally Posted by clayrush

Good cars and mustang should not be in the same sentence nor should Hyundai for that matter.
But i am a fanboy i guess, and i am glad my GF is gonna buy this car instead of a GTI

You can say that about Mustangs until the latest revision, they ARE good cars now all around. Interior/Exterior quality, performance per dollar, etc, is a good car and a good value. That stigma has been dead for a couple years now. The V6 is a good car, the GT is a performance bargain (it stacks up well against BMW 3-series), and the Boss is a steal for it's performance on the track.

Hyundai has also come a long way, just like like Kia. In fact, Kia and Hyundai's progression is that of Toyota and Honda in their glory days of the 90's.

To those who say "you just can't see the value in this car's performance", wrong. It's priced far too high for what you get. 200hp is nothing to write home about, and I want to see test numbers and road course/track times on it to see what it's really capable of first. I'm sure it feels great, and I'm all for that, but right now I'm edging on that it's not up to what it's be heralded to ultimately handling wise. That said, I'm sure a proper suspension and tire set up would net some impressive numbers, even the Hotchkis Celica kit yielded that with the 7th gen, but the point is that you have to tack on another 3k+ for said parts on top of an entry level $25k car. And that's not including the typical basic power bolt-ons and tuning even. But one has to learn be happy with what you want, and good luck to all those that buy and are happy with the FR-S/BRZ.

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by fatoni

The mustangs are a bargain. This is a fair price at best

I would not buy it but the 2013 mustang is a bargain I agree.
I don't see anybody else putting in HIDs and LED taillights standard and RWD with 305HP for $22.2K

We have to wait and see tomorrow what come standard on the FR-S.