STX Rules and Setup Questions

[Wepeel]

Originally Posted by piknockout

Some videos from Dixie in Danny's FRSarri.

Nice driving, awesome that you were that close to Mr. GTAcademyWinner. How does the car feel compared to the Pallotta setup?

[piknockout]

Thanks guys. Hard to do a comparison because I only drove the car at Toledo on concrete on nearly new Rivals, with the car setup for Hankooks. This caused it to have quite a lot of understeer which we never quite got out. I would say that Danny's current setup on asphalt is better than that particular weekend, but that's not a fair comparison. What I do know is that the car feels fantastic and easy to drive. I'm finally starting to get used to the idea that I have grip going through corners and that I don't really need to slow down so much.

[SubiePig]

Originally Posted by piknockout

I would say that Danny's current setup on asphalt is better than that particular weekend, but that's not a fair comparison. What I do know is that the car feels fantastic and easy to drive. I'm finally starting to get used to the idea that I have grip going through corners and that I don't really need to slow down so much.

I am running Andrew's almost exact old setup. I was having push problems at Dixie the entire weekend just as you describe. I was on RS3's at the setup worked quite well, once I went to the Z2 I haven't found a combination of settings that worked well for me with current parts. I ordered a few things this week that will most likely resolve that issue for College Station next weekend. Have a few good hours after work in the garage ahead before then.

[Kido1986]

Dixie doesn't lend itself well to RS3s I found. I drove on RS3 and Z2s this weekend and my RS3s, even when hot, were awful

[Scooby South]

yeah.. learned that RS3's aren't very Asphalt Friendly. Dunlap's do a better job on Asphalt IMO..

[EN2_Squirrel]

For those who change their tires when they get to the venue how do you load your car? The trunk is full of tools.

[Turkish]

So I pulled the trigger on konis and RCE tarmacs, my follow up question is regarding LCA's. Am I correct in assuming that if I were to use the Whiteline LCA's that have multiple mounts for the rear sway bar bushings, I would only be legal in STX if the bushings were mounted in the same location as on the oem LCA? I attached a picture of the Whiteline LCA from FT86SF.

[SubiePig]

Originally Posted by EN2_Squirrel

For those who change their tires when they get to the venue how do you load your car? The trunk is full of tools.

Stand one up behind the Passenger seat, stack two behind the driver seat and one on the truck upside down. Tool bag and extras go in the one in the trunk, jack on the side. push passenger seat back to keep tires from sliding around.

[Kido1986]

All 4 fit in the back seat area, at least with 7" wheels. Lay 2 down behind driver, stand other two behind passenger. Trunk is completely open at that point.

[SubiePig]

Yeah, 9" with 255's you can get 3 to stand up but thats about it.

[ABQautoxer]

Originally Posted by piknockout

Thanks guys. Hard to do a comparison because I only drove the car at Toledo on concrete on nearly new Rivals, with the car setup for Hankooks. This caused it to have quite a lot of understeer which we never quite got out. I would say that Danny's current setup on asphalt is better than that particular weekend, but that's not a fair comparison. What I do know is that the car feels fantastic and easy to drive. I'm finally starting to get used to the idea that I have grip going through corners and that I don't really need to slow down so much.

FWIW your Day 1 video looked like you were afraid to lose the rear of the car so you were turning it, waiting to see how much it started to rotate and then turn in again. I wonder if turning down the rear rebound would have helped you find some time or is what I'm seeing not quite the reality?

[mrazny]

Originally Posted by Turkish

So I pulled the trigger on konis and RCE tarmacs, my follow up question is regarding LCA's. Am I correct in assuming that if I were to use the Whiteline LCA's that have multiple mounts for the rear sway bar bushings, I would only be legal in STX if the bushings were mounted in the same location as on the oem LCA? I attached a picture of the Whiteline LCA from FT86SF.

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The allowance is about Camber, not anywhere else in the rules. So that's where it starts. Does the arm adjust camber? *yes* Does anything else in the rear of the car need to be modified to use your part? If that answer is no, you're golden. Bushing rules are bushing rules. Those rules never talk about relocation, just about material and type. No additional metal, no change in type. Also means no camber plates at the top of the strut.

[SubiePig]

I think his question was referring to the option the Whiteline arms give with having 3 mounting points to modify motion ratio as well as 3 options of where to mount the swaybar link. Of those 3 options for both connections one of them is the stock geometry.

You can not change motion ratio, of course, so if you are using the stock mounting hole for the strut I would see no benefit in using anything other than the stock location swaybar hole. You would be moving the endlink off center from the swaybar rather than adjusting the arm length or anything.

Also, the bushing rule for anti-roll bars is different than suspension arms. Bushing material, method of attachment and locating points are unrestricted as long as you don't cut holes to route bars or links, or modify suspension locators that would effect suspension and steering geometry.

[Turkish]

Originally Posted by mrazny

The allowance is about Camber, not anywhere else in the rules. So that's where it starts. Does the arm adjust camber? *yes* Does anything else in the rear of the car need to be modified to use your part? If that answer is no, you're golden. Bushing rules are bushing rules. Those rules never talk about relocation, just about material and type. No additional metal, no change in type. Also means no camber plates at the top of the strut.

They also stipulate routinely through the rules that you cannot change suspension geometry. So I was trying to see if that would be considered changing the suspension geometry.