Boost, N/A or trade her in ?

[FRS Justin]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

Not when those cars are trapping higher..... I know how drag racing works, lol.

I was fooling around at the track and ran a 12.0 at 133mph what does that mean lol

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by FRS Justin

I was fooling around at the track and ran a 12.0 at 133mph what does that mean lol

That obviously you spun half track and have some power. Lol. Or have a narrow, peaky powerband that didnt start rolling til mid track.

Also when I said weight doesn't need to be accounted for it is simply because the cars we are referencing are still running in the twelves while weighing 3600 lbs +. Obviously with less weight and the same power you would run faster. You still can't make an 86 replicate the wide powerband of a large displacement v8, however. There are blower kits with nice torque curves but most turbo kits running high power start making the usable powerband in the higher rpms.

[FRS Justin]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

That obviously you spun half track and have some power. Lol. Or have a narrow, peaky powerband that didnt start rolling til mid track.

Also when I said weight doesn't need to be accounted for it is simply because the cars we are referencing are still running in the twelves while weighing 3600 lbs +. Obviously with less weight and the same power you would run faster. You still can't make an 86 replicate the wide powerband of a large displacement v8, however. There are blower kits with nice torque curves but most turbo kits running high power start making the usable powerband in the higher rpms.

12.0 at 133 means I catfished someone's ass for 100 bucks lol


My turbo starts pulling at 3200rpm and lights out at 3800 to 4000rpm but it falls off 7000rpm 644whp-524 wtq its a rush because it comes on so hard. And your right a FA20 can't compete with a long stroke v8 power curve.

[Summerwolf]

Thats the closest I have heard in an FA20. What is your torque curve like? Definitely not the average vehicle. With the spare motors and that FI kit we probably don't have to go in to overall cost of ownership.

[MrSlay]

Originally Posted by FRS Justin

12.0 at 133 means I catfished someone's ass for 100 bucks lol


My turbo starts pulling at 3200rpm and lights out at 3800 to 4000rpm but it falls off 7000rpm 644whp-524 wtq its a rush because it comes on so hard. And your right a FA20 can't compete with a long stroke v8 power curve.

How much more MPH do you think you could get out of your car? Im thinking you should be in the 140-145mph range on a good day.

[FRS Justin]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

You are talking about bracket racing with the gtr. Post up hundreds of videos that would be great! You are actually proving more and more my point. So you went 13.5 at 100 with modifications, a lot of the newer muscle cars are trapping 108 + stock.

I love this car, but it is by no means a fast car. Thats the only thing I am saying.

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I never realized how many crappy civics I went thru mustang races coming. I have to watch everyone because their not labeled, 3 yrs worth of videos

[FRS Justin]

Originally Posted by MrSlay

How much more MPH do you think you could get out of your car? Im thinking you should be in the 140-145mph range on a good day.

oh ya no problem going 140 to 145 conditions right track prep dictates that

[MrSlay]

Originally Posted by FRS Justin

oh ya no problem going 140 to 145 conditions right track prep dictates that

Thats whatsup. I would love to see that because I definitely think its possible.

[FRS Justin]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

Thats the closest I have heard in an FA20. What is your torque curve like? Definitely not the average vehicle. With the spare motors and that FI kit we probably don't have to go in to overall cost of ownership.

Not going to post the numbers yet on max but here is 29psi pretty big jump in hp for 2100 rpm
I plan to run a series next year so that's why I have the extra engines and trans. This turbo kit isn't like a mass produced one I have special pipe diameters and a bunch of cool work by Spencer Fab in NH definitely it's a beast

[FRS Justin]

Originally Posted by MrSlay

Thats whatsup. I would love to see that because I definitely think its possible.

big jump from n/a


the first problem we are having brakes, its hard to stop in the shut down, brake fade gets bad but we are working on that

[mrk1]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

You aren't taking into account the broad torque curve of most v8s compared to the relatively narrow power band of the fa20.

My power may not be huge (291) but I have put in lots of work to achieve a fat torque curve, 240lb peak at 4500rpm. Tuning a setup can be geared for just about anything, 99.99% of people want max peak HP so thats what you usually see. Yes there is no getting over the 2.0L 4cyl we are starting with but there are a lot of ways to setup a turbo kit.

I am working on a new setup this winter to keep the same nature but with larger numbers.

[GsxrMe]

Well that and 1/4 and 1/8 isn't everything about a car. I'm not talking about the track either.

I can't tell you how many at stop lights, it would go green and the car next to me stayed perfectly next to me while going. He'd punch it at 30 and take off and I'd just rip him a new exhaust pipe.

I picked the brz because it wasn't in everyone's garage. I knew it wasn't the cheasiest option for hp either but the protential for a head turning, great handling, wheel spinning ride was limitless. Without a turbo it's a gutless wonder but with it, I don't want to sell the thing.

One thing is for damn sure. I will not turn the boost up until the engine is built. That's for damn sure.

[Cal3000]

Originally Posted by FRS Justin

I would love to say I agree with all this but there are some major factors can ruin a 300whp 86's day real quick you would better off racing from a dig then a roll against a big v8. Think of it like this a man with long legs racing a midget' the midget might get out of the hole quicker but once them long legs get moving mini me is going to get passed like he is sitting still over a distance. The longer motor stroke comes into play. plus no car is a drag car from the factory nor is it a track car. mods will be made for performance gains. Only exceptions are ford dodge and gm all have 9 sec factory drag cars they sell ex. the gm copo.

I would love to agree with you too, but I think you are better off roll racing a big V8 than from a dig. Reason being that on normal street tires, these cars are light and can't maintain grip.
I've raced a GT from a dig and got murdered at launch since I was spinning all over the place. They also have longer FDs so they don't have to shift as much.
At at different encounters I've raced SS rolling and pulled away. I've also pulled on a GT. Did a 60 roll. This is with lousy SC torque and a very peaky powerband. lol. I think it's also better because you can choose where you want to be in the powerband and you don't have to worry about a controlled launch.

[FRS Justin]

Originally Posted by Cal3000

I would love to agree with you too, but I think you are better off roll racing a big V8 than from a dig. Reason being that on normal street tires, these cars are light and can't maintain grip.
I've raced a GT from a dig and got murdered at launch since I was spinning all over the place. They also have longer FDs so they don't have to shift as much.
At at different encounters I've raced SS rolling and pulled away. I've also pulled on a GT. Did a 60 roll. This is with lousy SC torque and a very peaky powerband. lol. I think it's also better because you can choose where you want to be in the powerband and you don't have to worry about a controlled launch.

I guess its in the car setup on what works best. As you could see in my videos I walk away at the start. (launching at 7800 rpm) from the v8s and if I do get beat its from the top end charge at the end they pass me. I will try to post a video of a ZL1 Camaro I raced. I was at the light when he came around I thought that one was mine all the way down until 300 feet from the end.
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