Cold Air Intake worth it?

[hmong337]

Your best bang is a K&N drop-in filter replacement. I believe intakes are a waste of money for this car unless you are doing an NA tuned setup or are doing it purely for aesthetic reasons. The stock airbox has been proven to be pretty efficient for what it is. I'll stick to that until I turbo one day.

[campy]

If I have to convince myself that a mod does anything, then it isn't worth it to me. I know I'm not capable of feeling a 5-10hp difference in a car. Maybe everyone else's butt dynos are just better calibrated.

[Wise]

Originally Posted by campy

If I have to convince myself that a mod does anything, then it isn't worth it to me. I know I'm not capable of feeling a 5-10hp difference in a car. Maybe everyone else's butt dynos are just better calibrated.

You'd probably need Niki Lauda's butt to detect a 5-10hp difference on a 200HP car.

[Frishkorn]

Originally Posted by hmong337

Your best bang is a K&N drop-in filter replacement. I believe intakes are a waste of money for this car unless you are doing an NA tuned setup or are doing it purely for aesthetic reasons. The stock airbox has been proven to be pretty efficient for what it is. I'll stick to that until I turbo one day.

Honest question. How on earth could that mess be efficient?

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by Frishkorn

Honest question. How on earth could that mess be efficient?

Airbox volume is key. Also the oem box takes into account resonance. Checkout some Superbike airboxes. Like the r1, s1000rr, ducati Panagale.

[Frishkorn]

Originally Posted by Reaper

Airbox volume is key. Also the oem box takes into account resonance. Checkout some Superbike airboxes. Like the r1, s1000rr, ducati Panagale.

Just seemed like a waste between the extra tube with the sound generator. And as I'm pulling out all the stock components, noticing how restrictive the air diversion channel seemed compared to the new plate that I installed.

Now you guys make me want to take the intake out, dyno it, put the aftermarket back in and dyno it. Should a intake companies dyno results be thrown out the window? And if so, how are they able to advertise those numbers without being in trouble for fraud?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Frishkorn

Just seemed like a waste between the extra tube with the sound generator. And as I'm pulling out all the stock components, noticing how restrictive the air diversion channel seemed compared to the new plate that I installed.

Now you guys make me want to take the intake out, dyno it, put the aftermarket back in and dyno it. Should a intake companies dyno results be thrown out the window? And if so, how are they able to advertise those numbers without being in trouble for fraud?

No doubt there would be some improvement and I don't think anybody is saying the stock one is perfect. More just a matter of for a stock set up they are pretty good compared to many other vehicles set ups. The original question was what is the best "bang for the buck" and in that context the drop in filters probably are.

If you are really ambitious and want to try and find them, there are already dyno comparisons between stock and aftermarket intakes on here someplace. Been a while since I saw it but seem to recall almost none made the numbers that the manufactures claim. Now add a tune on top and ya they made it. It isn't all that hard to push any sort of measurements up to what you want if you know how to tweak the system just the right way. Maybe they did 20 tests at 2 but then got one at 10 and said "ahhh there we go the max is 10 we don't need to discuss the other 20".

How many products of any type live up to the manufacture's claims? If they all did what they say they will there would be no obesity because a couple of special shakes would keep the weight off, every car would get the top mileage listed all the time and the average size of a dong would be 12 inch's!
How do they avoid fraud? Simple as putting a small print disclaimer on the product literature that says "results may vary". You will also frequently see statements such as "up to XXX" which of course can be argued that if you even have any increase at all you have met what they claimed.

The whole thing is that if you are happy with what you have and it does the job for you then why bother trying to prove that everything else is no good? No matter what you have somebody someplace is going to think theirs is better no matter what numbers you throw at them.

[Reaper]

Very efficient without the cat.

[BRZBlack]

I did a K&N drop in (might replace it with one that doesn't need to be oiled soon) and the Perrin intake tube/sound tube delete. Cleans up under the hood a bit and gives better air flow. Like a lot of others have said so far, the drop in is all you want/need unless going FI.

[ShadowReaper]

its all in the tune boys

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ShadowReaper

its all in the tune boys

You resurrected a 2 year old thread for that gem of wisdom?

[ShadowReaper]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

You resurrected a 2 year old thread for that gem of wisdom?

I like how you always call ppl out because they didn't use the search feature to find "2 year old" threads to find information... Now you are calling me out for using the search feature, since gee idk, maybe im looking to install a CAI..

Contradiction, pass it on.

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

You resurrected a 2 year old thread for that gem of wisdom?

Originally Posted by ShadowReaper

I like how you always call ppl out because they didn't use the search feature to find "2 year old" threads to find information... Now you are calling me out for using the search feature, since gee idk, maybe im looking to install a CAI..

The thing is your resurrection contained no new information (useful or otherwise), humor or point of interest.

So in a similar vein I give you

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ShadowReaper

I like how you always call ppl out because they didn't use the search feature to find "2 year old" threads to find information... Now you are calling me out for using the search feature, since gee idk, maybe im looking to install a CAI..

Contradiction, pass it on.

Please indicate one place I told somebody to search. Did you resurrect to ask a question? Did saying it is all in the tune help you make up your mind what intake to go with?
Anybody is free to resurrect whatever they want for what ever reason they want I just found it funny that a 2 year old thread came back with info that was already said several times.