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robispec · 05-28-2013, 05:02 PM

HEY TOYOTA lets define "NORMAL DRIVING"... lol I have a mountain road that I do this almost every day on...

Carwhisperer · 05-28-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

This is the SPECIFIC reason I didn't want to run E85 on this car for some years, until tons cold hard data were available. I knew all about other Subaru's handling it pretty well, but no one had any data on it working with out DI system.

Might not work out so well

haha

wgnzlz · 05-28-2013, 05:07 PM

Well this sucks!

DriftEightSix · 05-28-2013, 05:09 PM

What are people on about regarding the car was designed for e10!?
My manual states use ron98 and the lowest to ever use is ron95.

Carwhisperer · 05-28-2013, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wgnzlz

Well this sucks!

It was only a matter of time. Didn't surprise me at all when I got Cel P0351 then performance loss, then the "Firecracker" noise come from my engine bay. All while on e85, Is it related? Could be.. not 100% positive.

I have a buddy that is not on the forums, but he drives a Frs and had the same issues with me. DI leaking after about 10k miles on the car running all e85. But again he drives it 110% most of the time. So now he just went with the Crawford's built motor.

lbroskee · 05-28-2013, 05:13 PM

So ppl are switching to E85 for power with no knowledge of the effects of this type of fuel on systems not designed for it....

OrbitalEllipses · 05-28-2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DriftEightSix

What are people on about regarding the car was designed for e10!?
My manual states use ron98 and the lowest to ever use is ron95.

United States gasoline has 10% ethanol content allowance. Fuel systems are built with this in mind. E85 is 85% ethanol content, thus over the allowance of ethanol content that the system was built in mind with.

If you can't tell, ethanol does nasty things.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbroskee

So ppl are switching to E85 for power with no knowledge of the effects of this type of fuel on systems not designed for it....

Full knowledge...just complete denial. This is a production car, it's not going to have a robust fuel system to handle something completely out of specification. What did people expect??

feldy · 05-28-2013, 05:20 PM

Oh man. Been using this a little over two months off and on. A week or two of e85 then back on pump gas until the next autocross event usually. Sometimes I only switch to e85 two days before events. I will have to pull the sump and take a look.

Adeets · 05-28-2013, 05:20 PM

No one is shocked by the damage E-85 has done, were trying to create a solution, so if your posts consist of "told you so" or "that's y u don't..." Just don't post, not running e-85 is not a viable solution, and if someone bought this car with no intent to push it to the limits they shouldn't be in this thread in the first place. Lucky enough we have for-runners to find the issues so others can learn, it's an entire R&D system if you look at it, find a problem, find a fix. Thank you @robispec for leading.

brichard0625 · 05-28-2013, 05:22 PM

i think most of us just trusted the phrase "it will not mess up anything in the car" and purchased anyway....Most of knew we were taking a risk but I did not think it would happen so early in the game...it is what it is..we all learn from our mistakes! Im just hoping i didnt do any or just light damage and my car will be fine

brichard0625 · 05-28-2013, 05:25 PM

Hopefully robispec comes out with a solution because I will def send my money his way

SmsAlSuwaidi · 05-28-2013, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by brichard0625

i think most of us just trusted the phrase "it will not mess up anything in the car" and purchased anyway....Most of knew we were taking a risk but I did not think it would happen so early in the game...it is what it is..we all learn from our mistakes! Im just hoping i didnt do any or just light damage and my car will be fine

It's really hard to mess with anything in any car and think it won't do anything
to the car reliability wise; even a simple catback increases the chance of failure

robispec · 05-28-2013, 05:47 PM

AMEN!
working on a soulution to the scavaging and the small sump issue at the same time..

brichard0625 · 05-28-2013, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robispec

AMEN!
working on a soulution to the scavaging and the small sump issue at the same time..

loving this guy right now

05-28-2013, 05:09 PM	#60
DriftEightSix Pegasus White Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 86 Location: Brisbane. Posts: 973 Thanks: 646 Thanked 126 Times in 104 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What are people on about regarding the car was designed for e10!? My manual states use ron98 and the lowest to ever use is ron95. __________________ Driving: Pegasus White Manual GTS 86.

05-28-2013, 05:20 PM	#64
feldy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Drives: 2013 FRS Asphalt Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 1,155 Thanks: 309 Thanked 335 Times in 212 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Oh man. Been using this a little over two months off and on. A week or two of e85 then back on pump gas until the next autocross event usually. Sometimes I only switch to e85 two days before events. I will have to pull the sump and take a look. __________________ 2013 Scion FR-S AT Picked up 5/30/2012

05-28-2013, 05:20 PM	#65
Adeets OEDC Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Vortech 8.5psi 274WHP 2013 BRZ Location: Pa Posts: 619 Thanks: 117 Thanked 263 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No one is shocked by the damage E-85 has done, were trying to create a solution, so if your posts consist of "told you so" or "that's y u don't..." Just don't post, not running e-85 is not a viable solution, and if someone bought this car with no intent to push it to the limits they shouldn't be in this thread in the first place. Lucky enough we have for-runners to find the issues so others can learn, it's an entire R&D system if you look at it, find a problem, find a fix. Thank you @robispec for leading. __________________ My BRZ FI Build Visconti is like a Tick that sucks as much blood(money) as he can before you figure out he's there. please make sure to leave your experiences with visconti on his feedback thread located here: Visconti feedback

05-28-2013, 05:22 PM	#66
brichard0625 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion Frs(Scarlet) Location: Bronx, NY Posts: 907 Thanks: 172 Thanked 386 Times in 177 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i think most of us just trusted the phrase "it will not mess up anything in the car" and purchased anyway....Most of knew we were taking a risk but I did not think it would happen so early in the game...it is what it is..we all learn from our mistakes! Im just hoping i didnt do any or just light damage and my car will be fine __________________

05-28-2013, 05:25 PM	#67
brichard0625 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion Frs(Scarlet) Location: Bronx, NY Posts: 907 Thanks: 172 Thanked 386 Times in 177 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hopefully robispec comes out with a solution because I will def send my money his way __________________

05-28-2013, 05:02 PM	#57
robispec Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Black frs project Location: Socal Posts: 960 Thanks: 189 Thanked 886 Times in 381 Posts Mentioned: 190 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	HEY TOYOTA lets define "NORMAL DRIVING"... lol I have a mountain road that I do this almost every day on...

05-28-2013, 05:47 PM	#69
robispec Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Black frs project Location: Socal Posts: 960 Thanks: 189 Thanked 886 Times in 381 Posts Mentioned: 190 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	AMEN! working on a soulution to the scavaging and the small sump issue at the same time..

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