Non expierenced tuner, trying to upgrade my frs...

[kidgogeta]

Get a tune, exhaust and intake/drop in filter and see how you feel from there, I'm not sure if you can get e85 down there but some people have made some decent numbers with it. You can always look up headers like the nameless/rev works which both put out some good numbers.

Forced induction can get really expensive with all the additional mods you have to do to maintain balance.

I would stick with 18" light weight rims instead of 19's since they cost less, weigh less, and tires cost less as well. Get a decent set of springs, look at the suspension thread.

[mrlewistan]

in one of your posts i think i read that you dont plan on installing the parts yourself? thats where the money is gonna really bite you. However, there are some fairly easy mods you can do yourself: intake, pulley, short throw shift (i read good things about the kart boy short shifter).

Since the car is a daily driver, i wouldnt recommend lowering the car too much. Maybe a 1 inch drop would suffice to make it look more agressive. In which case id recommend springs instead of coilovers. From what ive seen, they are fairly strait foward to install if you have the right tools.

If youre willing to put in abit more money than those things above, a complete exhaust system will give you abit more umph but that may require a mechanic in order to get to all the parts. after the exhaust a tune will squeeze out more out of the whole system.

Turbo and super chargers require alot of money to fully assemble and tune. One of the colorado members i hang with has a vortech supercharger in his and he ran into alot of issues along the way and has put in abit of money (i dont know how much exactly but the system itself cost about 4k) But his brz is pushing 365hp and its crazy to see that thing pull away on the highways.

From my own experience, i really enjoy how a stock frs feels. the only time i ever feel it lacking is on the strait highways when i have to pass trucks.

[Jonoraven93]

Originally Posted by mrlewistan

in one of your posts i think i read that you dont plan on installing the parts yourself? thats where the money is gonna really bite you. However, there are some fairly easy mods you can do yourself: intake, pulley, short throw shift (i read good things about the kart boy short shifter).

Since the car is a daily driver, i wouldnt recommend lowering the car too much. Maybe a 1 inch drop would suffice to make it look more agressive. In which case id recommend springs instead of coilovers. From what ive seen, they are fairly strait foward to install if you have the right tools.

If youre willing to put in abit more money than those things above, a complete exhaust system will give you abit more umph but that may require a mechanic in order to get to all the parts. after the exhaust a tune will squeeze out more out of the whole system.

Turbo and super chargers require alot of money to fully assemble and tune. One of the colorado members i hang with has a vortech supercharger in his and he ran into alot of issues along the way and has put in abit of money (i dont know how much exactly but the system itself cost about 4k) But his brz is pushing 365hp and its crazy to see that thing pull away on the highways.

From my own experience, i really enjoy how a stock frs feels. the only time i ever feel it lacking is on the strait highways when i have to pass trucks.

Yes in on of my post I did say I didn't plan on installing myself, but my cousin is a full time mechanic who I plan on helping me if or when I decide to get some parts. But your information was pretty helpful along with the others who recently posted. I'm liking all the different perspectives. Like I said I don't have much knowledge when it comes to tuning but this Fr-s is wanting to broaden my horizons.

[dawnst3ar]

Did this guy take the insurance $$ and buy an FR-S???

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=286107

[SloS14]

http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58584

http://stonemountain.patch.com/artic...photo-14105869

[regal]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Adding power will reduce the lifespan of the car which is why many people are avoiding it and advising it against it (especially since it's your primary vehicle), but if that's what you want the forums I linked are a better place than this.

I don't think adding a Vortec or a well maintained and tuned turbo install is guaranteed to lower the lifespan of the engine. People used to say the same thing about the KA24 in the 240SX, never proved to be true. And now with the advanced tuning of the stock engine management things are much better.

This OPer is pinpointing the Achilles heal of this car : 3rd gear torque dip lack of acceleration. A true drivers car does not get stuck at 4k rpm going up a hill in 3rd gear, just doesn't define a drivers sports car. I notice it every day on a steep hill coming home from work. I/H/E tune aren't going to help with this issue.

Swapping 18 or 19" rims is only going to make the problem worse. Better to look for the lightest weight 16" rims you can find.

Or better swap the rear differential to a shorter gear, that and better tires make this a true sports car. I am also of the opinion that the stock struts and springs aren't stiff enough, unfortunately there is no good upgrade for this yet, (I'm not carving my stock struts for inserts.).

Smartest thing is to wait for better aftermarket solutions to the suspension, see how reliable the superchargers are a year from now and then tackle that one thing keeping this from being a top street sports car (the torque dip in 3rd.)

[njccmd2002]

Jono, dont listen to most tools here that just give crap advice and mock. I call these users "fillers", its that gooey crap that you find in a can of spam, that you just simply throw away, and by god dont feed to your dogs. Youll soon realize some of them dont even drive an FRS, and cant or wont have valid opinions.

they are just here, because they are probably very well known, in their own forums as trolls, but beware some non frs owners actually bring good advice, just tune out the tools here....

start slow, with whatever u decide, dont do 6 mods at the same time, and realize there is something u dont like, and dont know what made the change.

Im starting slow, im doing a short shifter first, and maybe brake pads. Just to make the driving experience fun. This car is about enjoying the experience, its not a fast and furious.

You have an auto car, so short shifter wont work for ya, try by researching brake pads, and maybe ss brake lines, and drive it in a close circuit, and go from there...


But always remember, you car, your money, your mods. have fun.

[SloS14]

I don't know why you guys are trying to talk him into more power. If this is the same guy (which it probably is) he just ran a BMW into someone's house in a residential area. There's even a shirt

[img]http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii567/JinormusJ/wm-front_zps2***d087.jpg[/img]

[njccmd2002]

hes in SC and hes had the car since last year. Please read his post

[Jonoraven93]

Originally Posted by njccmd2002

hes in SC and hes had the car since last year. Please read his post

Thank you for the information, and ya this "slo" guy or whatever has Been trying to troll on me for the past few days, quite lame. But ya iv realized there's only so much I can do due to the lack of aftermarket parts. I shall wait for awhile to see what happens but yea, proud owner of a frs since October of last year just lookin for improvement

[njccmd2002]

it seems that almost every topic posted in this forums you always have to weed out the bad information, the trolls, and it just makes tedious to read a topic, then you loose interest and i stop visiting for a while.

its ok to troll here and there, but it seems like lately its more than the norm.....

[Jonoraven93]

I agree I haven't been part of the club very long, but I'd say 40% of the post I received were trolls. Everyone who reads this I still wouldn't bother receiving input... I'm thinkin a small intake change... Debating coiliovers or springs of course an also wondering on what wheel depths I should get? Any recomendations? I'm stuck on 18s now and just wondering what would give my car the sickest look

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by regal

I don't think adding a Vortec or a well maintained and tuned turbo install is guaranteed to lower the lifespan of the engine. People used to say the same thing about the KA24 in the 240SX, never proved to be true. And now with the advanced tuning of the stock engine management things are much better.

More power = More stress = Shorter life.

Those are facts, now what you say is absolutely true, IF everything lives in harmony then the engine could last just as long as if it never gets a turbo. At this point that is a MASSIVE "if", we don't know how much stress this engine was designed to put up with, we simply don't have the numbers to say "slap a turbo on! nothing bad will happen! you can reliably do extensive modifications and not worry about missing work cause something screwed up because this is the OP's primary car!"

Can cars be modified extensively with no ill effects?
Absolutely.
Are there risks?
Absolutely

[LeeMaster]

Originally Posted by Jonoraven93

By ruined what do you mean? It's my everyday driving car. I'm just goin for a black out look so I'm not sure what would be best.

Putting 19" or even 18" rims will only add unnecessary weight to your vehicle. You drive a 2.0L NA which means you want to be as light but as functional as possible especially in regards to rotating mass. For faster cars that comes with a bigger engine block or uses a turbo like the WRX STi's, they can overcome that by their sheer power but that dont mean you should slap a turbo and think it's ok to run 19s because IMO it looks hideous for this small coupe.

Besides, the rubbers are more expensive the more inches you go up on your wheels which will only make your car more of a pit whore.

If you are looking to upgrade your car, stick with lightweight 17s. Bigger does not always = Upgrade