Scion FR-S Manager hopes to introduce new FR-S variant every year

[cassidy0998]

Well if that's true I won't ever get one! I'll always say "well I can just wait for the next model and it will have this..."

I guess this means there will be a lot of used ones floating around though - may lead to a massive modding epidemic.

I bet they will be subtle changes.

And especially if they are coming out with a convertible version down the road - there's one variant to check off the list right there.

[ruskymx]

Originally Posted by tripjammer

Actually Scions have really good resale value. The FR-S will probably have on the best resale values of any Scion or Toyota. Also remember they are not going to be making a lot of these per year.

+1

Also, if anyone is considering a car as an "investment", you need to change how you think of a car. Cars depreciate, and some (read mostly domestics) a lot more than others. Scions hold their value very well, partly because of the lower production numbers.

I'm not saying that there are not cars out there that are worth more now than they were new, but it's more of an exception, than the rule. Supply/demand plays a huge role in this.

The future variants the US will see initially are going to be release Series Scions. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I can see Toyota releasing the GT-86 version in the US in the future if sales go well of the Scion/Subaru versions. If they do, I'm sure many people will do what they had planned with Scion which is to get a consumer to buy a Scion model, to later buy a Toyota model at a higher price. I think if the US gets a higher HP variant of the FR-S/GT-86, it will be under the Toyota badge. Subaru's will be under the STi name. This is all speculation and my semi-edumacated guessing.

Ruskymx

[Snoopyalien24]

So if Scion wants to change stuff every year, I think I'll just get the Subaru STI which will have it all probably on it's first year. Anyways, I can't get the AS1 on its first year. Maybe, 2nd or 3rd year.

Edit: no matter what, whoever buys this first gen will always be known as having the MKI of the AS1 - and that's cool

[poormans_LFA]

I will NOT buy first year. probably 3rd.

[cassidy0998]

why is everybody talking about the subaru STI? we have no idea if there will be one

[switchlanez]

^When Toyota releases its versions (leaked Modellista, TRD w/ duckbill, TRD w/ BFW) is Subaru gonna just sit there and not release any special versions? Why would Subaru go through all the trouble of displaying a modified concept at the LA Auto Show... and go so far as to name it "STI"?

[switchlanez]

Originally Posted by ryude

In other words, they want people to "wait" to see if the next version is better than the one they could buy today. I hate when companies do that... Planned Obsolescence.

"Planned obsolescence of desirability" is a pessimistic view... the more realist view is these tweaks extend shelf life (current business model for Porsche, Mustang, GT-R, WRX, EVO, LFA, etc.). Difference here is Toyota is *kindly* letting us know ahead of time instead of keeping it secret... that's great! Knowing what to expect somewhat > not knowing at all. It's also very unorthodox (when did a car maker ever announce things like this BEFORE their new model even debuts?). They have tons of confidence - almost arrogance - banking on this car to be an icon (well it already is in our circle ).

[cassidy0998]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

^When Toyota releases its versions (leaked Modellista, TRD w/ duckbill, TRD w/ BFW) is Subaru gonna just sit there and not release any special versions? Why would Subaru go through all the trouble of displaying a modified concept at the LA Auto Show... and go so far as to name it "STI"?

To increase the hype. It's just a marketing game. That's the reason most of us have stuck around this site for so long - hype. Will it have this feature? Will it cost this much? Let's see another teaser picture! etc.

That which we can not have, we want even more.

But we've spent so much time with the car on our minds, that we'll buy whatever they give us.

The STI concept makes it look more car than it is - cool, awesome. (makes me think wow the BRZ is nice!) Will we get one? Who knows.

[twkstr]

I'll never own this car because next year it'll be completely different and cost $5k more...

[WolfpackS2k]

I'll test drive this car when it comes out, but unless it completely blows my socks off (doubtful) I will be waiting for a more powerful version.

[bambbrose]

A lot of you guys act like we don't modify our cars.

If you get the first year model, and a better version comes out next year, go down to the dealer and buy the parts you want to upgrade. We are enthusiasts are we not?

[WolfpackS2k]

I like modifying vehicles

I like new car warranties more.

[bambbrose]

Lol those two things mix as well as oil and water...

[Quentin]

Originally Posted by ryude

Since you refuse to read, I have done most of the work for you.

I read. I disagree with your claim that Scion is deliberately screwing the early adopters.