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Old 01-24-2013, 08:13 PM   #57
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I think the question was more regarding storing the tires in cold weather. I also don't have access to a heated garage. Its well-insulated, but it can get below the recommended temperature depending on which direction the wind is blowing.

Mine are on the car now (which is in the garage for the winter), but in the future they will be stacked in the corner when I put my winters on. Please clarify.
Its recommended that tires are stored in climate controlled location. Cold weather conditions on a performance tire can cause and accelerate dry rot and crack the treads. Plenty enough people do store them in sheds and have no issues, but is it worth the risk? Your tires are the only thing that keeps your car planted on the road. Compromising their integrity is taking a big gamble. All season tires (more like 3 season tires) are typically a harder compound, making them fair a little better in the cold, but still not recommended. i try to store my extra tires in closets, corners, under beds, even put the couch on top of a set for the season
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Its recommended that tires are stored in climate controlled location. Cold weather conditions on a performance tire can cause and accelerate dry rot and crack the treads. Plenty enough people do store them in sheds and have no issues, but is it worth the risk? Your tires are the only thing that keeps your car planted on the road. Compromising their integrity is taking a big gamble. All season tires (more like 3 season tires) are typically a harder compound, making them fair a little better in the cold, but still not recommended. i try to store my extra tires in closets, corners, under beds, even put the couch on top of a set for the season
Am pretty sure storing tires in the cold (no driving) won't affect anything because compound will slowly adjust to temp without losing its properties when back to normal spring/summer temp.

Any guys working in tire shops on this forum?
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Snow or not, these tires don't get much grip at all in the cold. It's caught me off-guard a couple of times.
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Am pretty sure storing tires in the cold (no driving) won't affect anything because compound will slowly adjust to temp without losing its properties when back to normal spring/summer temp.

Any guys working in tire shops on this forum?

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"Place the tires in a cool, dry location. It is better to store tires in a dry basement or climate-controlled workshop than in a standard garage, storage shed, hot attic or outdoors. While basement and shop surroundings tend to remain cool and dry, conditions found in typical garage, shed, attic and outdoor locations often include a wide range of hot and cold temperatures, as well as seasonal precipitation and humidity. "
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I know you Canadians are odd and all, but can I get that translated into English please?
i'm canadian and i also had a hard time reading what he wrote...


still... summer tire... in winter.... in canada.... dont need to be a rocket scientist to understand what's wrong...
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I unno if its my being too aggressive during traffic or some sort or the tires are just crap...

i'm running those stock primacy tires, i was stuck in traffic and the roads are dry, maybe a lot of salt on the ground. Green light, i stepped on it to pass the slow ass car in front me. I was on the left lane behind the slow poke, switched to right lane really fast, accelerate pass the car, switch left lane after I passed his front, then BAMB! the rear flew out! i went into four consecutive fish tails. At the time I had my VSC sport on, passing the vehicle at 60-70km/hr. WTH... why is it so easy to throw the tail out on a simple lane change?!?

Is it the weight? the tires? or me?
I have experienced similar issues with the FR-S. The Scion will snake bite anyone that is not cautious on wet roads. Much more dangerous in the snow and ice. The electronics are helpful. It's quite a surprise the first time it happened. Rear end started sliding out after turning onto an entrance ramp. It was a low G turn but the road was wet. Adding 100 pounds of salt to the trunk helped traction in the snow. I am not an engineer but the car was designed with "Drifting" in mind. This may effect the ability of the cars rear end to break out. Love the car. As an Ex Pilot I learned quickly its a car that I needed to be aware of its idiosyncrasies. Caution in less than ideal driving conditions is important until I learn the limitations of the car.
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from tirerack.com:
"Place the tires in a cool, dry location. It is better to store tires in a dry basement or climate-controlled workshop than in a standard garage, storage shed, hot attic or outdoors. While basement and shop surroundings tend to remain cool and dry, conditions found in typical garage, shed, attic and outdoor locations often include a wide range of hot and cold temperatures, as well as seasonal precipitation and humidity. "
What do you recommend for Winter tires? Low to medium budget.
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"Place the tires in a cool, dry location. It is better to store tires in a dry basement or climate-controlled workshop than in a standard garage, storage shed, hot attic or outdoors."

That's the best solution i agree Grishbok but doesn't mean storing them in a shed will make them obsolete...doing it since many years and no issues so far.
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What do you recommend for Winter tires? Low to medium budget.
Continental Extreme winter contact $128 or General Altimax Artic $111 each on Tirerack.com
Size 205/50/17 if you sticking with OEM mags. 205 work well in the snow because less wide a bit than stock ones...
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Great info. Thanks. Same rims?
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Sideways? Fishtailing? I thought that was normal for this car.

Show the car proper respect or it can get away from you.
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[QUOTE=Lebowdia;687527]Great info. Thanks. Same rims?

If on a budget yes. If want to keep them nicer for long time can buy steelies. You could then drop to 16 in wheels with 205/55/16 i believe.
You could also try to find used 17 in Subaru mags for winter ( or summer if nicer them OEM mags). That's what i've done...
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Sideways? Fishtailing? I thought that was normal for this car.

Show the car proper respect or it can get away from you.
Agreed. Respect is needed. Didn't think I was pulling anywhere near the edge of a slide or Fishtailing. I was very surprised. Going to try a Winter tire.
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Great info. Thanks. Same rims?

If on a budget yes. If want to keep them nicer for long time can buy steelies. You could then drop to 16 in wheels with 205/55/16 i believe.
You could also try to find used 17 in Subaru mags for winter ( or summer if nicer them OEM mags). That's what i've done...
Great info. Appreciate it. Any recommendations for an All Season tire for my Wife's 2003 Celica GTS? Costco tire salesman convinced me the BF Goodrich was a good match for her car. I had a different brand and tire in mind. Her car handles like a truck. Huge roll resistance. Costco agreed to take them back especially after I mentioned the Tech said they mounted the front tires backward. Costco is a great company. No questions asked. Good philosophy. A medium priced tire that handles well and good in rain, decent in snow....
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