First Drive Review of Toyota FT-86 / Scion FR-S Mule! [Car magazine] - Page 5 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

carbonBLUE · 10-28-2011, 03:09 PM

Now those are some sexy seats

RRnold · 10-28-2011, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FormulaJDM

Sounds like the R version might not be street legal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkivalex

^^ I HIGHLY doubt they will release a non street legal version of the car.

Can you guys explain why not?

zigzagz94 · 10-28-2011, 03:17 PM

ichi, I never said it was or wasn't street legal because I don't know what the laws are where FormulaJDM lives. I was just trying to make sense of his post.

I don't personally think Toyota would release a version of the FR-S with a cage but who knows it could happen I guess.

I would bet on the lighter weight and Brembos making it to production though.

oneday · 10-28-2011, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

I guess you never seen 911 GT-3 RS

Some street legal sports car do come w rollcage

That is not a roll cage...that is a roll bar and harness bar. A cage has a halo and forward down tubes.

Tyandriel · 10-28-2011, 03:23 PM

that is the part of a roll cage. You can see the blinds where the front pieces are joined to. And the whole contruction has FIA approval, afaik.

Marrk · 10-28-2011, 03:25 PM

@FormulaJDM:

There's no money in a street illegal car.

Toyota is not Ferrari. They aren't in the business of producing track-only cars. Ferrari is a racing car company that produces street cars. Toyota is a street car company that is trying to appeal to the enthusiast market.

WolfpackS2k · 10-28-2011, 03:25 PM

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7 seconds 0-100, pretty happy with that. Has a more thrust than a MX5.

The NC Miata (MX5, whatever) does 0-60 in 6.7 seconds. So...not really?

oneday · 10-28-2011, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkivalex

^^ I HIGHLY doubt they will release a non street legal version of the car.

Ford does this with the Mustang and Focus via their Ford Racing Parts catalog. 2012 Boss 302S

oneday · 10-28-2011, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyandriel

that is the part of a roll cage. You can see the blinds where the front pieces are joined to. And the whole contruction has FIA approval, afaik.

It is _part_ of the cage....but is _not_ a cage. The notches (the little black parts at the top of the bend of the main hoop) are built in gussets to attach available halo and down tubes (the forward section to complete the cage).

FormulaJDM · 10-28-2011, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marrk

@FormulaJDM:

There's no money in a street illegal car.

Toyota is not Ferrari. They aren't in the business of producing track-only cars. Ferrari is a racing car company that produces street cars. Toyota is a street car company that is trying to appeal to the enthusiast market.

Then why is Toyota debuting a Yaris race car at Sema next week?

http://pressroom.toyota.com/releases...club+racer.htm

nate89 · 10-28-2011, 03:47 PM

I'm totally buying the R-spec.

JohnnyR · 10-28-2011, 03:50 PM

Very disappointing sounding article. If it's rumored to be true with a est 2800lb mark at 197hp, along with the questionable handling, many are not going to get the car they hoped for. Right now, maybe it'd be a cool looking, decent mpg commuter for me at best, as it doesn't sound like it's going to really live up to the handling hopes neither. If pricing of this car is near/around $28k, consider it DoA, and overall Toyota really failed here. Sad thing is, it has me really worried about them releasing a new Supra and screwing it up.

Oh well, here's to hoping the rumors of the BRZ being a better car. Just IMHO.

M-17 · 10-28-2011, 03:53 PM

Hold up... the R version sounds enticing. I'm pretty patient but this is getting a bit frustrating, oh well.

Kostamojen · 10-28-2011, 03:59 PM

OOohoohoho R version! I likey

Type-RA version hopefully from the sounds of it.

Although I'd still get the base model... Don't really need brembos or a roll cage in this car.

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10-28-2011, 03:09 PM	#57
carbonBLUE Reverse Burnouts Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: 2013 Argento FRS Location: dallas!!! Posts: 2,894 Thanks: 707 Thanked 1,257 Times in 592 Posts Mentioned: 30 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Now those are some sexy seats

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zigzagz94 BRZerhood Lurker #13 Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 15 DGM BRZ Premium Location: charon's ferry Posts: 892 Thanks: 377 Thanked 225 Times in 128 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	ichi, I never said it was or wasn't street legal because I don't know what the laws are where FormulaJDM lives. I was just trying to make sense of his post. I don't personally think Toyota would release a version of the FR-S with a cage but who knows it could happen I guess. I would bet on the lighter weight and Brembos making it to production though.

10-28-2011, 03:23 PM	#61
Tyandriel Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Drives: Supra MkIII Location: Germany Posts: 63 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	that is the part of a roll cage. You can see the blinds where the front pieces are joined to. And the whole contruction has FIA approval, afaik.

10-28-2011, 03:25 PM	#62
Marrk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: Honda Fit Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 722 Thanked 125 Times in 90 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	@FormulaJDM: There's no money in a street illegal car. Toyota is not Ferrari. They aren't in the business of producing track-only cars. Ferrari is a racing car company that produces street cars. Toyota is a street car company that is trying to appeal to the enthusiast market.

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nate89 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Drives: MR2 Location: USA!!! Posts: 256 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm totally buying the R-spec.

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JohnnyR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: 04 Evo 8 Location: PA Posts: 171 Thanks: 4 Thanked 9 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Very disappointing sounding article. If it's rumored to be true with a est 2800lb mark at 197hp, along with the questionable handling, many are not going to get the car they hoped for. Right now, maybe it'd be a cool looking, decent mpg commuter for me at best, as it doesn't sound like it's going to really live up to the handling hopes neither. If pricing of this car is near/around $28k, consider it DoA, and overall Toyota really failed here. Sad thing is, it has me really worried about them releasing a new Supra and screwing it up. Oh well, here's to hoping the rumors of the BRZ being a better car. Just IMHO.

10-28-2011, 03:59 PM	#70
Kostamojen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: 1993 Impreza w/ WRX Swap + FWD! Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 2,071 Thanks: 217 Thanked 952 Times in 500 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	OOohoohoho R version! I likey Type-RA version hopefully from the sounds of it. Although I'd still get the base model... Don't really need brembos or a roll cage in this car.

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