STI front brakes on BRZ (confirm) - Page 5 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

fred_boosted · 09-14-2012, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamal

No, bleeders are not on the bottom otherwise he couldn't bleed the brakes. His calipers are on backward so the pistons are in the wrong order.

What about change the bleeder's location like OP said?

Will that be better?

jamal · 09-14-2012, 02:51 PM

Yeah that's what you should do. unbolting them and flipping them over to bleed works too. Just don't bolt them on the wrong sides.

RYU · 09-14-2012, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamal

Yeah that's what you should do. unbolting them and flipping them over to bleed works too. Just don't bolt them on the wrong sides.

It takes air bubbles a good while to float to the top i'd assume. So, you're going to unbolt the wheels. Unbolt the calipers. Flip them upside down. Hope the air bubbles float to the top while maneuvering thru internal crevices. Then bleed? It just doesn't sound ideal to me.

$0.02.

wootwoot · 09-14-2012, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

I could be wrong, but EBD will not solve all of your brake bias problems, especially at the track under hard braking. Maybe one of the other brake gurus can chime in.

- Andrew

The brake gurus seem to be leaving this thread alone... Come forward cowardly lurkers!

Floggin Tires · 09-14-2012, 08:40 PM

Not a brake expert, nor coward. But this works.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiks

You can bleed the brakes easily if the bleeders are on the bottom.

Just unbolt caliper, throw a bit of wood in between pads, and bleed them, bolt them back on once complete.

Takes 5 extra mins.

kiks · 09-15-2012, 10:13 AM

Bubbles dont 'work' their way around. You just put a bottle of fluid through and bleed them properly. High pressure release and close before bottom of pedal stroke = high velocity fluid = no bubbles.

Turbowned · 09-15-2012, 10:46 AM

Of course my friend is parting out an '05 STi as we speak, and I don't have a BRZ yet to get the brakes on... arg!

I've got a mean set of Porsche Brembos lying around, but they're for a Cayenne and are wayyyy too big to fit under stock wheels. Not to mention wayyyy overkill

TouchMyHonda · 09-15-2012, 07:44 PM

^ lol what a tease.

sdwztofu · 09-15-2012, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wootwoot

The brake gurus seem to be leaving this thread alone... Come forward cowardly lurkers!

Phil came and said his peace and provided useful info. Take it or leave it but I would go with what he says since he is the only one in this thread with first hand experience with this brake set up on this car. Others are just speculating about improper brake pad wear (not saying they are wrong either but if someone whom has actually done it and been quite successful with it and says there are no noticeable issues yet I tend to believe him). As stated numerous times in this thread a system designed for this car would be the best route but if you have some sti brembos laying around or can get them cheap from a friend it is definitely an upgrade worth doing and not hard to do.

jamal · 09-16-2012, 12:14 AM

Phil's calipers are on backward so I wouldn't consider him a brake guru.

wootwoot · 09-16-2012, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamal

Phil's calipers are on backward so I wouldn't consider him a brake guru.

lol.

Element Tuning · 09-17-2012, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamal

Phil's calipers are on backward so I wouldn't consider him a brake guru.

And you are only giving an opinion. You are offering advice based on zero experience running an STi Brembo setup on an FRS/BRZ.

I have the so called properly engineered StopTech kit on my STi and the brakes pads wear unevenly so I guess they got the pistons wrong.

If I listened to every piece advice I've gotten from experts and non experts I would be just as slow as everyone else.

Like I said, listen to whoever you want but make sure who you listen to, has more than just an opinion!

Element Tuning · 09-17-2012, 02:53 PM

Oh and by the way I'm not against running the pistons in the orientation they were designed by swapping the bleeder. In my case I knew that attempting to swap the bleeder was likely to end in a useless caliper. My Brembo setup has been thoroughly abused.

I had this problem earlier this season with my Willwood setup on my Legacy GT. It snapped off the day I was leaving for my race. I was lucky to be able to extract the broken bleeder!

RYU · 09-17-2012, 03:04 PM

Some of the folks on here need to learn to be quiet and just read. Please take the advice and testimonials from people who actually race instead of driving them out of the forums since a lot of times they have no vested interest in commenting. I've seen this many times when the guys that race have useful input (sometimes right, sometimes wrong) get driven out because they don't want to put up with the BS. In almost all cases they are all still useful info right or wrong. At the very least, they are useful in knowing what not to do for your setup. If you guys want to hear yourselves talk please do it elsewhere because there are guys like me who actually want to hear more testimonials about this cheap STi caliper swap.

Element Tuning - Not saying you're right or wrong but your lap times and video seems to point in a general direction in which i'd listen to your comments. Thanks for sharing your experiences. What has been your solution for the rears?

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09-14-2012, 02:51 PM	#58
jamal Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Legacy GT Location: compton Posts: 534 Thanks: 9 Thanked 367 Times in 205 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah that's what you should do. unbolting them and flipping them over to bleed works too. Just don't bolt them on the wrong sides.

09-15-2012, 10:13 AM	#62
kiks Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: V12 Location: Where beer does flow and men chunder Posts: 42 Thanks: 1 Thanked 24 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Bubbles dont 'work' their way around. You just put a bottle of fluid through and bleed them properly. High pressure release and close before bottom of pedal stroke = high velocity fluid = no bubbles.

09-15-2012, 07:44 PM	#64
TouchMyHonda Vtec Jesus Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ, 13 Golf R, 15 Audi S4 Location: LSD Posts: 1,165 Thanks: 623 Thanked 243 Times in 153 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^ lol what a tease.

09-16-2012, 12:14 AM	#66
jamal Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Legacy GT Location: compton Posts: 534 Thanks: 9 Thanked 367 Times in 205 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Phil's calipers are on backward so I wouldn't consider him a brake guru.

09-17-2012, 02:53 PM	#69
Element Tuning Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Hydra EMS Powered FRS Raven Black Location: Maryland Posts: 839 Thanks: 54 Thanked 1,021 Times in 365 Posts Mentioned: 61 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Oh and by the way I'm not against running the pistons in the orientation they were designed by swapping the bleeder. In my case I knew that attempting to swap the bleeder was likely to end in a useless caliper. My Brembo setup has been thoroughly abused. I had this problem earlier this season with my Willwood setup on my Legacy GT. It snapped off the day I was leaving for my race. I was lucky to be able to extract the broken bleeder!

09-17-2012, 03:04 PM	#70
RYU Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: really slow... Location: Los Angeles (SGV) Posts: 737 Thanks: 340 Thanked 253 Times in 145 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Some of the folks on here need to learn to be quiet and just read. Please take the advice and testimonials from people who actually race instead of driving them out of the forums since a lot of times they have no vested interest in commenting. I've seen this many times when the guys that race have useful input (sometimes right, sometimes wrong) get driven out because they don't want to put up with the BS. In almost all cases they are all still useful info right or wrong. At the very least, they are useful in knowing what not to do for your setup. If you guys want to hear yourselves talk please do it elsewhere because there are guys like me who actually want to hear more testimonials about this cheap STi caliper swap. Element Tuning - Not saying you're right or wrong but your lap times and video seems to point in a general direction in which i'd listen to your comments. Thanks for sharing your experiences. What has been your solution for the rears?

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