When will we see the Subaru BRZ concept?

[Abflug]

so how they say, there is going to be an other subaru concept at IAA in Frankfurt...

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/n...t-3973383.html

The Japanese automaker Subaru is at the IAA show another technique to study upcoming sports car, which will go into 2012 as the Subaru GT series.


The collaboration between the Japanese automaker Subaru and Toyota to develop a new sports car is on its last legs. The 2 +2- seater with rear-wheel drive and four-cylinder boxer engine will be offered from 2012, both under the label under the Subaru and Toyota.

Subaru GT sports cars on the zenith
At Toyota, the athletes will take up the legacy of the Celica with Subaru Subaru GT he will make history. The type abbreviation derived from "Boxer engine," "Rear-wheel drive" and "Zenith", since as a turning point in sports car and brand image.

The approximately 4.25-meter long sports car should wear bug in a 200-hp two-liter four-cylinder boxer. The boxer engine coupled to a manual six-speed gearbox. To keep the focus on deep, the boxer engine was placed far behind and far below. As a price for the new sports car will be traded around 27,000 €.

[Type[R]+]

Originally Posted by TomGT

As a price for the new sports car will be traded around 27,000 €.

Thats quite expensive.

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Originally Posted by Type[R]+

Thats quite expensive.

so true!

[blur]

Pricing is all over the place. NASIOC indirectly says $19k, Tranz got quoted $20k, I got quoted $25K and now 27K €?

[Giccin]

Originally Posted by blur

Pricing is all over the place. NASIOC indirectly says $19k, Tranz got quoted $20k, I got quoted $25K and now 27K €?

19k would be awesome. 20k sounds reasonable. 25k sounds like the guy wants more money off of you. And 27k€ sounds kinda on the dot for them. Eu and I think Au(?) have a really high car tax (I believe it was 20-30% increase in price from how much a US car would cost. Someone correct me if I'm wrong).

I know a friend in Portugal that has to pay 90% of the cost his car as a car tax or owner's tax.

[OldSkoolToys]

Different markets, different pricing. As Giccin pointed out, European countries have way higher 'wheel' taxes than here in America, that inflates the final sales price of the car.

@$25,000 for the base model, Subaru will have a hard time selling these suckers...especially when, at that price, you can get the AWD WRX from the same dealer at the same price.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

Different markets, different pricing. As Giccin pointed out, European countries have way higher 'wheel' taxes than here in America, that inflates the final sales price of the car.

@$25,000 for the base model, Subaru will have a hard time selling these suckers...especially when, at that price, you can get the AWD WRX from the same dealer at the same price.

This. Europe always pays more than the US for the same car. Even Canada gets shafted compared to the US on Subaru models.

[RRnold]

How about MSRP 19K for the 2.0 N/A and then 25K for the 1.6T in the US market. I think most can live with that.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by RRnold

How about MSRP 19K for the 2.0 N/A and then 25K for the 1.6T in the US market. I think most can live with that.

If the turbo ever makes it here. NA would be a steal. Just save up and put a SC on after warranty.

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

If the turbo ever makes it here. NA would be a steal. Just save up and put a SC on after warranty.

True, assuming all rumors were confirmed. Wouldn't this be great?

2012 2.0L NA BR-Z = 19K

2013 1.6T BR-Z = 25K

2015 1.6T BR-Z STI = 30K

[SUB-FT86]

RRnold that turbo needs to come down to 22k instead of 25k. If you pay 6k more it better come with a sport package with the 1.6t.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by RRnold

True, assuming all rumors were confirmed. Wouldn't this be great?

2012 2.0L NA BR-Z = 19K

2013 1.6T BR-Z = 25K

2015 1.6T BR-Z STI = 30K

STI would have what in addition? Better LSD, Recaros, lighter wheels, maybe some aluminum/carbon fiber body parts?

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

RRnold that turbo needs to come down to 22k instead of 25k. If you pay 6k more it better come with a sport package with the 1.6t.

Yeah that's too much of a price hike. Maybe 19K base, 22K Premium and 25K Limited and 30k STI similar to the current WRX lineup.

Originally Posted by tranzformer

STI would have what in addition? Better LSD, Recaros, lighter wheels, maybe some aluminum/carbon fiber body parts?

I doubt CF but probably have upgraded suspension, brembos, BBS wheels, the typical STI exterior aero and some interior details like alcantara, steering wheel and stitching.

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Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

Different markets, different pricing. As Giccin pointed out, European countries have way higher 'wheel' taxes than here in America, that inflates the final sales price of the car.

This!

As I know people even import e. g. BMWs, MBs and so on from the States because they are cheaper to get there!