Got a track related question? I'll try to answer.

[WolfpackS2k]

I'd recommend changing to RBF600 brake fluid, and your preferred engine oil, not because the fluids in your BRZ are not fresh, but because they're not really suited to hard track duty.

The engine has full synthetic in it now (whatever the dealership put in it, oil changed 2,000 miles ago). I was going to start changing it myself for the next interval (and so forth), and I've always used Mobil 1. I assume that's fine for track duty.

I will take your advice and switch to RBF600 fluid though.

[MyRx]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

How much experience do you have with a loose car? My "typical" advice for anyone who isn't comfortable with a floaty/drifty/"always wants to rotate" car is to have a slight amount of toe-in both front and rear. While this isn't 100% ideal for performance, you're sacrificing maybe 1% performance for a HUGE increase in stability, both highway and on track. 1/16" total toe-in front, and 1/16" to 1/8" total toe-in rear (depending on preference, try less first). That being said, I prefer the CSG BRZ to be at 0 toe front and rear.

Alignment is frequently used as a band-aid fix for handling/suspension/balance problems that are caused by other parts. Sways and tire pressures are also common bandaids.

Brakes and radiator is ALWAYS a great choice. The car runs hot from the factory, and keeping temps down will help EVERYTHING under the engine bay, not just the engine, last longer. SS lines are strictly a preference thing, but brake lines, IMO, are a wear and tear item that should be replaced regularly. You don't want to have a brake line fail on you, ever. I change brake lines on my S2k roughly every 20 track days, but on the BRZ, you can likely go longer, as the brakes don't get as hot.

CSG is working on a cooling solution that will be a direct drop-in replacement for the OEM radiator that is more efficient. As with all the products we offer, it will not be the cheapest on the market, but it certainly will be one of the best products you can buy.

We use Speigler brake lines on the CSG BRZ. I have used Stoptech and Endless lines on my S2k. The Endless and Speigler lines are similar in construction quality and type, and are superior to the Stoptechs IMO.

Thanks for the info. I am familiar with RWD - have tracked a Z33 TT (mid 90s) and Z33 (mid 00s) but not as frequent as a bike (mid 00s) but the FRS is anew experience with its weight and ease to drive. Definitely the 'loose-est' RWD to slide around - the bike took more technique to 'break' its backend and slide thru smooth sweepers. That said, FRS stock hp is my objective and slowly increase it's performance over hp over time. The shop willing to provide tuning is not an expert in this platform but are experts in German performance. In the meantime, WL bushings are providing a lovely experience in lateral movement and predictable powering thru turn-ins and turn-outs. The FRS frequents redline territory as a canyon carver so more frequent PMs are a given. Looking to upgrade the fluid changes, rad coolant, etc.

By chance, when is your cooling solution coming to market and how much?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by MyRx

Thanks for the info. I am familiar with RWD - have tracked a Z33 TT (mid 90s) and Z33 (mid 00s) but not as frequent as a bike (mid 00s) but the FRS is anew experience with its weight and ease to drive. Definitely the 'loose-est' RWD to slide around - the bike took more technique to 'break' its backend and slide thru smooth sweepers. That said, FRS stock hp is my objective and slowly increase it's performance over hp over time. The shop willing to provide tuning is not an expert in this platform but are experts in German performance. In the meantime, WL bushings are providing a lovely experience in lateral movement and predictable powering thru turn-ins and turn-outs. The FRS frequents redline territory as a canyon carver so more frequent PMs are a given. Looking to upgrade the fluid changes, rad coolant, etc.

By chance, when is your cooling solution coming to market and how much?

It sounds like you have a pretty good foundation to work with, especially with your Z32 and Z33 experience. Keep in mind that neither of those cars had a "real" LSD, so this car will be more prone to sliding (and holding them), but that's a good thing; it also has more grip.

Cooling solutions will be announced when it's ready. It won't be cheap, but it'll be worth every penny.

[RAWR BRZ]

Do brakes squeal because racecar?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by RAWR BRZ

Do brakes squeal because racecar?

Because improper bedding

[rice_classic]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Because improper bedding

Or over heated.

Regarding race cars or "track pads";
Sometimes race pads just squeal because they don't "need" to be quiet so a manufacturer doesn't even focus on that. Squeaking is actually the nature of brakes because the friction creates a type of vibration and sound (squeaking) by definition is vibration, albeit a very very fast vibration.

Typically improper bedding yields an uneven transfer layer that will make your car feel like it's trying to shake itself to pieces. I've spent several thousand dollars chasing that devil. Now I won't spend a dime on any pad that is "sensitive" to bedding. (cough, carbotech, cough)

There was a joke back in the day (I think it came from a very old commercial) where a driver of a German sports car complained over and over to the German manufacturer of the brakes about their squeaking, to the point where he was put in touch with the senior rep for the company. The senior rep told the customer, in his heavy German accent: "We make zee brakes to schtopp good, not schound good." :click: End of conversation.



EDIT: Ok, I can't fart in the elevator without adding some value. Thus, I have a question in which I don't know an answer to. Mike: What parts in the suspension have the greatest bind and would have the greatest improvement from using spherical replacements? Also, for a dedicated track junkie, are their any parts that should be reinforced or replaced with something stronger because of fear of breaking prematurely?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by rice_classic

What parts in the suspension have the greatest bind and would have the greatest improvement from using spherical replacements? Also, for a dedicated track junkie, are their any parts that should be reinforced or replaced with something stronger because of fear of breaking prematurely?

Uh... I'm gonna defer to Robi for that one.

We don't know what'll break prematurely since the car hasn't been around enough... except the engine. /bitter

Get a tune and fix that transient timing table.

[robispec]

Originally Posted by smbstyle

I'll take a stab at this, since I just logged temps at Sebring in 87-90* ambient temps last weekend. Saturday I saw oil temps read from the OEM sensor via the OBDII port consistently stay at 287-293*f during each session, and at one point it actually touched 300*f. However, the water temp would stay around 210-217, but wouldn't go any higher than that. I did find though that on Sunday the temps stayed a few degrees lower, and maxed at 294, but hovered around 285 to 287. I am not sure WHERE the OEM sensor is pulling temps from, but that could have some bearing on why the temps are so high in comparison to water temp. Regardless, 280-290 and 300* temps being read ANYWHERE is not good.

This was my first time on track with the car, had 997 miles on it, no mods other than brake pads, fluid and brake cooling kit, even running stock tires.

this our solution
oil cooler in left side tank in the HUGE radiator

front View

Uses STOCK fans

All testing done all temps in "F" not "C"

Latest track data 100 degree ambiant 135 degree track surface temps.

My car Innovate/Sprintex Supercharged NO Intercooler 260 whp on dynojet

222 whp on dynodynamics

7psi 75mm pulley E-85 fuel

Water 198 peak oil 219 peak twenty minute run session with the A/C ON to simulate a FMIC (and it was hot out there lol)

I was driving my car hard enough to set a new lap record on 100 treadwear tires. Track average speed was 98.5 MPH

Customer car same SC Kit with dodgy water/meth injection on 91 octane california JUNK fuel (knocky environmental compromise fuel)

Water 210 peak oil 229 peak

so the data are consistant 20 degree delta between fluids and LOTS of overhead to go higher with the temps and still be safe.

Selling for 985 usd +shipping

Lots-O-room over the top and stays completely within the sheet metal center so IC piping can go out and in either over the top or behind the lights.



any IC mounted to the A/C points or front beam

these fit into a stock car NO modifications nessisary.

We are using the stock mounts and the stock hoses. Install is the same as replacing a stock radiator. The only intake that doesnt seem to work is the AIR RAID intake everybody else looks ok with some requiring alternate hose running but all seems to fit.

Works with Full blown kit/ Vortech SC/ AVO/ Innovate SC...

Stock bumper beam stays stock and in stock location.
NO cutting plastic to mount
Cold air over the top as needed
STOCK mounting points used
OVER TRIPLE THE COOLING CAPACITY and an extra Qt of engine oil.
takes 2 hours to install
total system cost Radiator oilcooler takeoff plates hoses, an fittings, fans
EVERYTHING INCLUDED

[iLuveKetchup]

Are the seized motors as prevalent as the blown ringland failures with GRs?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by iLuveKetchup

Are the seized motors as prevalent as the blown ringland failures with GRs?

Well, I've never had a ringland failure on a GR... (but I also never really drove GRs...)

[iLuveKetchup]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Well, I've never had a ringland failure on a GR... (but I also never really drove GRs...)

It's a matter of when not if with the GRs.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by iLuveKetchup

It's a matter of when not if with the GRs.

Thats why I avoid them

[Dezoris]

What is the maximum number of women I can fit in the car while safely hanging my steering wheel out the window at an HPDE?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Dezoris

What is the maximum number of women I can fit in the car while safely hanging my steering wheel out the window at an HPDE?

Depends on the size of the women you like...