follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Forced Induction

Forced Induction Turbo, Supercharger, Methanol, Nitrous


User Tag List
go_a_way1

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-25-2014, 02:29 PM   #6777
enwave
That headunit though...
 
enwave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited SSM
Location: Provo, UT
Posts: 520
Thanks: 304
Thanked 297 Times in 185 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I get terrible MPG because I go WOT too often.

But when I am driving "normally" I'm in the high 30s. Really great stuff.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
2013 BRZ Limited SSM 6AT
Phantom ESC 1.5Dump + E85 + OFH + Q300
Eibach Pro-Kit + Michelin PSS (stock size)
enwave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2014, 02:34 PM   #6778
raven1231
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Drives: 2013 Firestorm FR-S, 2016 DGM WRX
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 4,580
Thanks: 8,264
Thanked 3,118 Times in 1,667 Posts
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by enwave View Post
I get terrible MPG because I go WOT too often.

But when I am driving "normally" I'm in the high 30s. Really great stuff.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Same here lol
raven1231 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2014, 02:59 PM   #6779
robwbright
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Drives: '13 BRZ Limited WRB Phantom ESC 1.5
Location: Middleport, OH
Posts: 720
Thanks: 277
Thanked 243 Times in 165 Posts
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by fenton View Post
Fairly flat. Probably about a 300 foot drop over the 20 miles. Like I said it was essentially hyper mile mode lol.
We don't really have anything you'd call "flat" around here. But no real mountains, either.
__________________
'13 BRZ Ltd MT WRB Phantom ESC 1.5
2012 Honda Accord Coupe
2006 Saab 9-3 2.0t
1997 Honda Accord Coupe
1995 Honda Prelude VTEC
robwbright is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2014, 04:03 PM   #6780
enwave
That headunit though...
 
enwave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited SSM
Location: Provo, UT
Posts: 520
Thanks: 304
Thanked 297 Times in 185 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by robwbright View Post
We don't really have anything you'd call "flat" around here. But no real mountains, either.

I've got a 4000ft climb over a 12mi road right down the street from me. Goes from 4000ft. to 8000ft. Beautiful drive


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
2013 BRZ Limited SSM 6AT
Phantom ESC 1.5Dump + E85 + OFH + Q300
Eibach Pro-Kit + Michelin PSS (stock size)
enwave is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to enwave For This Useful Post:
robwbright (07-25-2014)
Old 07-25-2014, 04:13 PM   #6781
robwbright
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Drives: '13 BRZ Limited WRB Phantom ESC 1.5
Location: Middleport, OH
Posts: 720
Thanks: 277
Thanked 243 Times in 165 Posts
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by enwave View Post
I've got a 4000ft climb over a 12mi road right down the street from me. Goes from 4000ft. to 8000ft. Beautiful drive

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I spent the night in SLC once a decade or so ago. Beautiful. Never been to Provo, though.
__________________
'13 BRZ Ltd MT WRB Phantom ESC 1.5
2012 Honda Accord Coupe
2006 Saab 9-3 2.0t
1997 Honda Accord Coupe
1995 Honda Prelude VTEC
robwbright is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to robwbright For This Useful Post:
enwave (07-25-2014)
Old 07-25-2014, 05:37 PM   #6782
enwave
That headunit though...
 
enwave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited SSM
Location: Provo, UT
Posts: 520
Thanks: 304
Thanked 297 Times in 185 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by robwbright View Post
I spent the night in SLC once a decade or so ago. Beautiful. Never been to Provo, though.

Provo is a little weird. I've actually since moved a few miles away from Provo. But the area is great, and work is good. Forbes just gave our area the third best place for business in America. So between that and canyon carving in the BRZ, I'm pretty happy


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
2013 BRZ Limited SSM 6AT
Phantom ESC 1.5Dump + E85 + OFH + Q300
Eibach Pro-Kit + Michelin PSS (stock size)
enwave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2014, 08:45 PM   #6783
silent runner
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Drives: 93'Camry, 82'Corolla, 76' Celica
Location: Calgary, Alberta Canada
Posts: 76
Thanks: 4
Thanked 70 Times in 33 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Perscitus View Post
Something like this to get started? Holy low-end ESC torque!
This continues to be interesting as I do a few calculations... They suggest that in this scenario, the ESC/Phantom, actually has a 6.48% advantage in output, in the powerband (whp) between 2500-7000rpm. I did area calculations, based off of the hard points on this graph. (1930, invat. supercharger, 2055 ESC)

I decided to start out calculating the outputs on whp, because they looked closer than the torque curves. If someone else wants to slug out the torque comparison, I'm sure it will show a much larger advantage to the ESC.

This suggests to me that in daily driviing, the ESC, system would definitely be faster and more rewarding to drive. If you are using the car exclusively for track racing, and running the car at full boil for along time at a stretch, the mechanical supercharger may offer a slight advantage.

Thats what I calculated anyway...
silent runner is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to silent runner For This Useful Post:
DAEMANO (07-25-2014)
Old 07-25-2014, 09:12 PM   #6784
nlowell
Senior Member
 
nlowell's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Drives: 2013 Scion FRS
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 443
Thanks: 105
Thanked 409 Times in 173 Posts
Mentioned: 51 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
For sale listing posted:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70797
__________________
nlowell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2014, 09:36 PM   #6785
VR46
are you Jeff Vader?
 
VR46's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Drives: Black BRZ Limited
Location: NoVa
Posts: 126
Thanks: 89
Thanked 75 Times in 41 Posts
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by enwave View Post
Did you guys see that all the 2.0 maps from Shiv are hitting official release sometime today? 60+ standard/NA/Vortech maps, and another 18 for ESC, including E85 updates on both, for AT and MT.

(By the way, I interpreted @DAEMANO post to be a comparison of the two solutions closest in price, all mods inclusive -- that would be the best comparison and I think it is why he chose the charts he chose, even if that means high end ESC vs. low end Innovate)

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1864782

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Yep, saw that, but the new maps for the esc are MT only, so I'm hoping that I and the other ATs won't be left behind here

Last edited by VR46; 07-26-2014 at 07:13 AM.
VR46 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to VR46 For This Useful Post:
Blu-by-U (07-25-2014), enwave (07-25-2014)
Old 07-25-2014, 09:46 PM   #6786
07jazzrs5gt86
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Drives: Firestorm 86
Location: All Mt Pass
Posts: 277
Thanks: 203
Thanked 61 Times in 41 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by nlowell View Post
Soooooo tempting
Still waiting for rob next batch hopefully sooooon.
GLWS
07jazzrs5gt86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2014, 10:37 PM   #6787
Gums
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: SWP BRZ
Location: Sydney
Posts: 163
Thanks: 578
Thanked 97 Times in 47 Posts
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by fenton View Post
....... but I'm testing something out currently so lots of redlining
Love secret business
Gums is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Gums For This Useful Post:
DAEMANO (07-25-2014), enwave (07-25-2014), raven1231 (07-26-2014), Sojhinn (07-25-2014)
Old 07-25-2014, 10:49 PM   #6788
Sojhinn
Lightning McQueen Driver
 
Sojhinn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: Limited Red 6MT BRZ
Location: San Diego
Posts: 2,242
Thanks: 753
Thanked 1,167 Times in 644 Posts
Mentioned: 77 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gums View Post
Love secret business

Guess I wasn't the only one seeing that.
__________________
Nicknamed Lightning by my Kids.

Installed Mods:
Phantom Electric Super Charger | Open Flash Tune | Perrin OP/ HFC Front pipe | Invidia Q300 catback | ST Suspension | JDL Header | Flex Fuel
Sojhinn is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Sojhinn For This Useful Post:
DAEMANO (07-25-2014)
Old 07-25-2014, 11:02 PM   #6789
enwave
That headunit though...
 
enwave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited SSM
Location: Provo, UT
Posts: 520
Thanks: 304
Thanked 297 Times in 185 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by VR46 View Post
Yep, saw that, but the new maps for the esc are MT only, so I'm wondering if I and the other ATs will be left behind here

Sure hope not. He did say AT would come close after MT, so I hope it hits soon!

After not seeing it today, I'm removing the ESC for my regular dealer visit. I'll never be fraudulent, but don't want them taking notes in case I have an unrelated issue and trying to use the ESC against me


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
2013 BRZ Limited SSM 6AT
Phantom ESC 1.5Dump + E85 + OFH + Q300
Eibach Pro-Kit + Michelin PSS (stock size)
enwave is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to enwave For This Useful Post:
Blu-by-U (07-26-2014)
Old 07-25-2014, 11:18 PM   #6790
KAOS
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Drives: 2013 Scion FRS 10 Series
Location: Petaluma CA
Posts: 20
Thanks: 0
Thanked 21 Times in 9 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Perhaps my idea was a bit too simple. The 1-10v controller would have a mechanical means of interpreting what the petal position is. Based on this position the same apparatus would send a 1-10v signal to the controller that would basicly act as an interrupt between the phantom power supply and the dc motor. It would allow whatever the neccessary voltage to charge the motor. But, the phantom has its on controls that would conflict. If I remember correctly, it activates 100% at 70% throttle and recharges when not in use. Doesn't seem like a terribly complicated work around but, without having one right in front of me I'm most likely just talking out my Ass. Good luck to you guys though. Also, I'll be doing something like the phantom only nothing like the phantom (no electric motor). I hope to start fabrication in the next month or so. My end goal is to have a reliable means of boost capable of directly competing with tradition superchargers and turbos for around the same price as the phantom. It would be similar to the phantom in that is going to be a zero lag system but that's about it. Again, not building an electric supercharger or stealing anyone's idea. I believe mine is going to be the first of its kind. So if that sounds interesting, keep your eyes peeled.
KAOS is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Tags
26$ / wtq, affordable boost, better than turbo, brz electric supercharger, do want, dumbass freddy, electric shrimpage, electric supercharger, electronic supercharger, epic thread tag, fanboy circle jerk!, freddy keyboardwarrior, frs electric supercharger, get a real blower, haters gonna hate, hows the battery life?, lol, moar powa, nos with battery, one gear race champion, only pulls hard once, phantom charge, pm-robftss to order!, release date=not yet, release it already!, released!, rice, shut up and take our $$$, snake oil claims, street only, super pursuit mode, the price isn't known yet, tq300 plzkkthxbai, wooshy noise, yes turbo is better, yes turbo is expensive


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Circuit Motorsports - Vortech Supercharger FR-S Build + Full Perrin Exhaust & Extras Circuit Motorsports Member's Car Journals 4 03-21-2013 04:45 PM
Subaru BRZ : Full Throttle, powerslide, hard revving & ride ESBjiujitsu BRZ Photos, Videos, Wallpapers, Gallery Forum 20 05-30-2012 06:43 PM
86 Full Throttle Video + another. Aus86 FR-S & 86 Photos, Videos, Wallpapers, Gallery Forum 2 04-02-2012 07:07 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:35 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.