(GR86) Second Generation FR-S/BRZ insider info...

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by Stephen W.

Yes but... Mute isn't off. Mute only stops the audio from going to the speakers until you turn the car off. Thirty seconds after the next time you start the car the radio will come on at the same volume it was at when last used. Why should I have to hit mute after starting my car? Every other car we have ever owned has had an on/off switch for the radio/music system.
I did have the recall done. At least now with the updated software it doesn't blow my eardrums out like it did when I first got the car.

Im confused at what your after here....

You want the car to have the nav system on and the rest of the audio off?

I dont think the HU's in these cars are tech savvy enough to allow something like that.

[Stephen W.]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

Im confused at what your after here....

You want the car to have the nav system on and the rest of the audio off?

I dont think the HU's in these cars are tech savvy enough to allow something like that.

No, I would much prefer the entertainment portion of the HU system to function like units in our other cars have/do. When I do not wish to hear music or the radio I should be able to turn it off and have it stay off. I should still be able to hear turn by turn GPS, text messages or hands free phone calls.
What I do not want, what I really HATE! is the radio coming on 30 seconds to a minute after I start the car. Even when the radio was off before I parked the car.
Does that clear up things for you?

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Stephen W.

No, I would much prefer the entertainment portion of the HU system to function like units in our other cars have/do. When I do not wish to hear music or the radio I should be able to turn it off and have it stay off. I should still be able to hear turn by turn GPS, text messages or hands free phone calls.
What I do not want, what I really HATE! is the radio coming on 30 seconds to a minute after I start the car. Even when the radio was off before I parked the car.
Does that clear up things for you?

Wow, that sucks. I would have already replaced if mine was doing that. It's a latter model thing though. As I said earlier the Pioneers Scion used functioned as you describe.

[LancePower]

Can you switch the Head Unit "Source" to Media or Aux while nothing is plugged in to either, thus effectively "turning it off"?

[BigTuna]

Since I didn’t want to open a new thread, and this is the most recent one on the topic, I thought I’d share yet another article hinting at the new BRZ/86. However it doesn’t use speculative words.


https://www.motortrend.com/news/future-cars-toyota-86/


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[AnalogMan]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

https://www.motortrend.com/news/future-cars-toyota-86/

Of course this would be beyond fantastic. A factory turbocharged 2.4 liter (with a manual transmission!) next-generation car would make me, and probably most people here, absolutely drool. I'd be the first one in line to trade in my 2019 for one. But other than more definitive sounding language, this article doesn't seem to disclose much new information. We'll all have to wait and see what Toyota and Subaru might officially announce. I'll hold off celebrating and planning until then.

Unfortunately, the coronavirus changes everything. No one knows what the world is going to look like in a year or two (hell, not even what it will look like next month). Including Toyota. I suspect they will watch and see how the global economic situation unfolds over the rest of this year, and will make a calculated, purely financial decision on whether to continue with the development and release of this car, or to delay it, or to cancel it completely. At this point, with so much unknown and uncertain regarding the coronavirus, its impact on the world economy, and how the global economic picture will unfold, no one knows what will happen. I suspect Toyota and Subaru themselves probably don't know at this moment what they will do. I think they will not make any decisions until they gain some comfort over what the demand will be for the car at the time it will be launched, and adjust timing accordingly.

Toyota is a highly financially driven company. They pride themselves on making strictly rational, purely objective decisions. That's one reason they got to be the largest car company in the world (and making quality, reliable, fairly priced products that hit major market segments). Being 10 times Subaru's size, I think they are in the driver's seat on this. I think they will make whatever decisions will make them the most money, or, in this new post-coronavirus world, will lose them the least money, whatever path that might take.

Let's keep our fingers crossed.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

Since I didn’t want to open a new thread, and this is the most recent one on the topic, I thought I’d share yet another article hinting at the new BRZ/86. However it doesn’t use speculative words.


https://www.motortrend.com/news/future-cars-toyota-86/


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This is total bull based on the oldest of the speculative articles from other sites which even the writers of have changed their tune. It is the total opposite of what the other sites are now saying. The lack of speculative words does not mean it is not trash.


They are just rehashing their old articles since there are no new topics and they still want to make money.


Here is almost an identical piece they wrote back in January. It includes all the same stuff they say is now "new" and "headline news" right down to the last detail.


https://www.motortrend.com/news/next...-name-details/

[mrg666]

I am not sure why people are obsessed with that FA24 and keep speculating about it. If there will be a turbo FA engine FA20DIT is enough to make this car faster than any hot hatch. Enough bull poop already! Go get a supercharger guys, it will keep you happy until this never-coming next generation.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by mrg666

I am not sure why people are obsessed with that FA24 and keep speculating about it. If there will be a turbo FA engine FA20DIT is enough to make this car faster than any hot hatch. Enough bull poop already! Go get a supercharger guys, it will keep you happy until this never-coming next generation.

This car.. but you assume the second gen will be similar to the first gen. Maybe it'll be a 3,600lb massively oversized joke with a 2.4L NA 217 or whatever the latest rumor is engine

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by mrg666

I am not sure why people are obsessed with that FA24 and keep speculating about it. If there will be a turbo FA engine FA20DIT is enough to make this car faster than any hot hatch. Enough bull poop already! Go get a supercharger guys, it will keep you happy until this never-coming next generation.

the only reason the FA24 is brought up constantly is because
1.) the FA20 is N/A. The assumption is that the next car will maintain the N/A route.
2.) the only real feasible way of making more power without forced induction is to increase the size of the thing or change engines entirely.
3.) Its only natural to go with the FA24 since it already exists and is an upsized FA20 more or less with a turbo. Just remove the turbo and you have a N/A FA24.
4.) pull some numbers out of your butt that is actually achievable higher than what the FA20 can produce.

No one talks about the FB25 because thats an economy engine and doesnt rev high. No one talks anything with turbos because....this car has no turbos (FA20 DIT, FA16DIT, is out)
Subaru doesnt really produce anything larger or without turbo.
Toyota engine rumors were thrown around because of the TNGA rumor, which already doesnt make alot of sense. Plus they dont really have a motor that fits the bill either the 2.0 in the Corolla or the 2.5L in the Camry/Rav might be the most viable ones they currently have. But if they're anything like the previous gen motors they are NOT fun, racy, rev happy motors. (the Yaris GR might be the most viable motor for the application though, 1.6L turbo i3 with 257ish hp)

[mrg666]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

the only reason the FA24 is brought up constantly is because
1.) the FA20 is N/A. The assumption is that the next car will maintain the N/A route.
2.) the only real feasible way of making more power without forced induction is to increase the size of the thing or change engines entirely.
3.) Its only natural to go with the FA24 since it already exists and is an upsized FA20 more or less with a turbo. Just remove the turbo and you have a N/A FA24.
4.) pull some numbers out of your butt that is actually achievable higher than what the FA20 can produce.

No one talks about the FB25 because thats an economy engine and doesnt rev high. No one talks anything with turbos because....this car has no turbos (FA20 DIT, FA16DIT, is out)
Subaru doesnt really produce anything larger or without turbo.
Toyota engine rumors were thrown around because of the TNGA rumor, which already doesnt make alot of sense. Plus they dont really have a motor that fits the bill either the 2.0 in the Corolla or the 2.5L in the Camry/Rav might be the most viable ones they currently have. But if they're anything like the previous gen motors they are NOT fun, racy, rev happy motors. (the Yaris GR might be the most viable motor for the application though, 1.6L turbo i3 with 257ish hp)

There is no NA FA24, no hi-rev either ... yet. You are assuming things over you have already assumed. I can't read more of it.

[weederr33]

I was recently window shopping for a Lotus Elise and it got me thinking, "wow this car would be great with the Corolla motor and a supercharger slapped on it."

[PulsarBeeerz]

Originally Posted by weederr33

I was recently window shopping for a Lotus Elise and it got me thinking, "wow this car would be great with the Corolla motor and a supercharger slapped on it."

So a Lotus Exige then.lol

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by PulsarBeeerz

So a Lotus Exige then.lol

gotta put poor man's in front of that, but yep! lol