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Old 09-19-2013, 11:56 PM   #631
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I'd still like to see a car with a supercharger, everyone is going turbo. BMW, Ferrari, the list goes on. It gets old, even if you have no lag.

Though if you have lag it's fine, just learn how to left foot brake and keep the turbo in check...

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Old 09-20-2013, 12:12 AM   #632
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i feel like turbo lag is being blown out of proportion. with modern ball bearing turbos its almost a non issue when properly sized. plus, if you plan on using all 700 hp or whatever, you probably are at a high enough rpm to not have any lag anyways. that being said, whatever you want to call what rotrex makes is really interesting.
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:26 PM   #633
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It looks like both GM and Ferrari are guilty of hijacking bits and pieces of the BRZ's design for use in the C7 and F12.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:24 AM   #634
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It looks like both GM and Ferrari are guilty of hijacking bits and pieces of the BRZ's design for use in the C7 and F12.
More like tye other way around
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:14 AM   #635
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Curious why they do the staggered wheel diameter?
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Old 09-22-2013, 02:12 PM   #636
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That's funny. I've been arms deep in 4 of them, both LS2s and LS3s. Each of those owners had zero warranty issues. Sorry you got a lemon.
I definitely wouldn't call my C6 or Silverado Lemons.
It's just a different level of build quality.
The drivetrains in both my GM vehicles have been rock solid.
It's always the other stuff that goes bad on GM vehicles: switches, sensors, seals, etc. But my vehicles have never left me stranded.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:00 PM   #637
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Same here.. I Enjoyed the C6 for 5 years, intoxicating thrust, excellent grip..
but I enjoy the frs more! For the reasons you mentioned.. It's more visceral in feel too. No heavy corners! I don't miss those big wheels and tires..
You can play more in the real world with the frs.. Less thrust, more nimble and tossable.. You get to stay on it longer.. Not a bad trade off.

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Yep...to each his own. To me, a true "Sports Car" in the traditional sense, is a two seater (or maybe 2+2) lightweight, toss able, short wheelbase, great handling car. These attributes make me want throw my FR-S around, with a big grin on my face. I loved my C6 experience, but it was completely different. The car didn't want to be thrown around, unlike its race derivative as pointed out here by some. It wanted stay planted an generate big acceleration and top speed numbers. It was a blast. But the FR-S is actually more fun to take through a turn. You feel every bit of the dynamics going on, which is amazing since its got electric power steering. The driver feedback is 911 like. My Corvette, although a great machine, felt numb by comparison. The C6 was always ready to blow you away (I actually beat a sport bike stoplight to stoplight!) but you aren't driving, the car is. There is (IMHO) a thick layer of technology between you and the road, and you feel it. It feels like you're dialing in requests to the engine room. The FR-S is far more transparent by comparison. **I** am driving once again.

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Old 09-23-2013, 07:27 PM   #638
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More like tye other way around

Nah, Toyota had the FT86's development start around since 2007, the concept debuted in 2009. GM's development of the C7 was in secret the whole time, probably so they could ripoff other people's designs and change it enough that no one would suspect.
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Old 09-23-2013, 07:45 PM   #639
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Nah, Toyota had the FT86's development start around since 2007, the concept debuted in 2009. GM's development of the C7 was in secret the whole time, probably so they could ripoff other people's designs and change it enough that no one would suspect.
Let's be realistic here - do you really think that Ferrari and Chevy changed their styling of their high-end sports cars dramatically in the past year because of a 25k lightweight, low-end sports car that just came out? Really? Because I have a bridge to sell you if you think that's the case (especially regarding the $330k F12)...
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Old 09-23-2013, 08:04 PM   #640
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Curious why they do the staggered wheel diameter?
You know the Corvette has had staggered wheel diameters since 1997, right?

Primary reason as I see it: For aerodynamics, the back of the car is much much higher than the front. Same diameter front/rear wheels will cause the rears will looks sorta dinky, as they're small relative to the bulky rear body. So, staggered wheel diameters.
My theory, anyway...
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Old 09-23-2013, 08:22 PM   #641
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Let's be realistic here - do you really think that Ferrari and Chevy changed their styling of their high-end sports cars dramatically in the past year because of a 25k lightweight, low-end sports car that just came out? Really? Because I have a bridge to sell you if you think that's the case (especially regarding the $330k F12)...
It's not low end, you clearly don't own a BRZ or FRS so your opinion is invalid.
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:03 PM   #642
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At 25k, it's at the bottom of the 2 seat, front engine, rear wheel drive sports car range, joined only by the MX5.

Have you even seen a BRZ? It has 4 seats. Yet another invalid opinion from a non owner. Go back to your home forums kids.
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:46 PM   #643
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Give the guy a break. He does own a bridge BTW....

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Nah, Toyota had the FT86's development start around since 2007, the concept debuted in 2009. GM's development of the C7 was in secret the whole time, probably so they could ripoff other people's designs and change it enough that no one would suspect.
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At 25k, it's at the bottom of the 2 seat, front engine, rear wheel drive sports car range, joined only by the MX5.
youre wasting your time guys.
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