Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

[Fear]

Am I wrong for seeing this mod as merely a novelty and not a legit mod.... I feel like this is the turbo version of the autozone hood scoops and fender velours...

Not intended to offend anyone.

This just seems wrong...

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by Fear

Am I wrong for seeing this mod as merely a novelty and not a legit mod.... I feel like this is the turbo version of the autozone hood scoops and fender velours...

Not intended to offend anyone.

This just seems wrong...

I don't think you are trying to troll, so I'm guessing this just wasn't worded correctly.

Instead I'll answer the question: if pages of dynos, customer reviews, third party testing and general acceptance doesn't convince you.... I'm not sure what will.

[shif7i7down]

Originally Posted by bfrank1972

Hi. I've been preaching the benefits of Rob's creation long before you even popped up on this massive thread. I know the pluses and minuses well. For what it is, it's brilliant. Dynos don't lie - but they're quite often misinterpreted. Don't take my word for it though, go ahead and run against someone with a *decently tuned* AVO kit, I promise not to say "I told you so" after

Did I ever say that the esc would win against a"decently tune(custom tune)" avo kit? I said that the numbers are comparable if not better then the stage one kit that avo offers., there's really no need to come in here with your chest pumped and all gang buster out bro, I'm merely comparing a stock avo Stage one tune vs an esc stock tune. With that said,for the price difference i will still pick the esc.

Some of us are Aren't looking to make 9,000hp just a good DD that will get me through the day is just fine.

[Khyron686]

Originally Posted by Fear

Am I wrong for seeing this mod as merely a novelty and not a legit mod.... I feel like this is the turbo version of the autozone hood scoops and fender velours...

Not intended to offend anyone.

This just seems wrong...

Nah, it's real. Anyone sitting in the car can tell a huge different between when it's turned on vs off. I'm really enjoying mine.

[fenton]

Originally Posted by Fear

Am I wrong for seeing this mod as merely a novelty and not a legit mod.... I feel like this is the turbo version of the autozone hood scoops and fender velours...

Not intended to offend anyone.

This just seems wrong...

The short answer is, yes you are wrong.

When hood scoops add 30-50 HP to the rpm band(rpm dependent) and 65-70tq in the dip call me up and I'll take out my wallet.

:-)

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by robwbright

You can get down to the high 5s for $2000 to $2500 with the Phantom Electric Supercharger kit... "

You still haven't done that.
In any case, I get why your enthusiastic however that thread was about tuning and driving, not sure how plugging esc would help him but anyways. Then the cosworth thread, which lead to this:

Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

Jesus man can you plug this electric super/turbocharger in anymore threads?! And here I thought I was a fanboy.

It was indeed over the top, and the guys that thanked your posts at the time were merely butt hurt because I called out their bs prior.
Husker for ridiculing others as ricers when his car is littered with LEDs, and FAER/fear for pretending not to troll many threads since he was banned. He also just added his bit in this thread a few posts earlier, take it however you will.
I was trolling the ESC? how is that possible when I was probably one of the first interested and stayed around even after the much later release date for RHD versions? Pretty sure @DAEMANO isn't referring to me as he's seen me in this thread many many times.

Originally Posted by robwbright

I was referring to the criticism for merely being excited about the product and telling people about it... I understand why people are skeptical about the system itself... I was, too, initially.

I never was skeptical after seeing fenton's first couple of posts, it was definitely feasible from my background in electrical engineering.
Apologies since I don't think answering people's range of problems with ESC is the solution. If people asked about getting more power, sure. Not when other product releases or people are having issues with tunes/driving skills to beat a family hybrid.

Anyway, thanks for pointing it out. The comments direct at @robwbright had nothing to do with ESC development, it was just at the individual alone for being a kid and showing off his love for turtles.

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by s2d4

You still haven't done that.

No, I haven't. But others have. My lack of skill and/or tires doesn't change the fact that it can be done.

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by s2d4

The comments direct at @robwbright had nothing to do with ESC development, it was just at the individual alone for being a kid and showing off his love for turtles.[/IMG]

You called me out for being off topic while abstaining from calling out people for posting ENTIRELY off topic and completely irrelevant and useless.

When you decide to call out other people for being WAYYY more off topic and far less useful than I was, then perhaps your complaint about, again, TWO posts (one of which was a single sentence), would be considered more even handed.

Otherwise, why don't you just make whatever comments that are - in your obviously humble opinion - relevant to whatever thread you happen to be reading and leave other people alone..?

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by robwbright

No, I haven't. But others have. My lack of skill and/or tires doesn't change the fact that it can be done.

Yes, and I told you the exact reason why as well.

In any case, what @DAEMANO said was not applicable to me but you dragged me in, completely out of context but that isn't new is it?

Apologies to everyone else for adding my bit which I felt deserves clarification, since it was unwarranted as I definitely was not trolling the esc. I believe I've done that so that would be it from me, no point dragging it on for some kid.

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by s2d4

The comments direct at @robwbright had nothing to do with ESC development, it was just at the individual alone for being a kid and showing off his love for turtles.

Incidentally, I did comment in one other thread where the OP stated that he did not want to go FI and was interested in other bolts ons. On the suspicion that he was not aware that the Phantom ESC existed, I asked him if he would be interested in a part time FI application that was inexpensive.

OMGosh, I posted off topic. So sorry to offend you if you happened to see that thread. And since I could not possibly care less if you are offended, here's the thread:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=66807&page=2

Ironically, the OP and others were not, in fact, aware of the Phantom and three of them posted about being interested in an inexpensive, part time FI option.

Oddly, I received thanks over there for passing along the info. It turns out that not everyone on the board is aware of everything that is available. And if you were the moderator of the board, it would undoubtedly stay that way because you'd probably try to have me banned for posting OT.

And with that, I am done with you.

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by robwbright

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=66807&page=2
Ironically, the OP and others were not, in fact, aware of the Phantom and three of them posted about being interested in an inexpensive, part time FI option.

Nothing wrong with that nor was it applicable to the comment you were butt hurt about.

Originally Posted by robwbright

And with that, I am done with you.

Thanks, lets move on and don't drag me into it again.

Enjoy your ESC.

[Fear]

Originally Posted by fenton

The short answer is, yes you are wrong.

When hood scoops add 30-50 HP to the rpm band(rpm dependent) and 65-70tq in the dip call me up and I'll take out my wallet.

:-)

well your dyno graphs show it is basicly the same as stock for the top 1500-2k rpm ... and when i shift at red line .... well i don't drop down to that "50 whp" part of the band when the torque is ridiculous... maybe i just never seriously considered it enough but what little i do see it doesn't seem viable for anything more than a "weeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!" button. You know the occasional, "Hey look i can go fast... for a minute."

like a second gear pull, 5500rpm to say 110mph .... is the esc going to pull on a car with the SAME money invested in ANY other power adders?

not trolling or flaming, simply seeking to understand your perspective...

[Fear]

Originally Posted by s2d4

Nothing wrong with that nor was it applicable to the comment you were butt hurt about.


Thanks, lets move on and don't drag me into it again.

Enjoy your ESC.

Can I point out how this is another thread of you arguing with people like the keyboard auto engineer you are :P

<3

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by Fear

well your dyno graphs show it is basicly the same as stock for the top 1500-2k rpm ... and when i shift at red line .... well i don't drop down to that "50 whp" part of the band when the torque is ridiculous... maybe i just never seriously considered it enough but what little i do see it doesn't seem viable for anything more than a "weeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!" button. You know the occasional, "Hey look i can go fast... for a minute."

like a second gear pull, 5500rpm to say 110mph .... is the esc going to pull on a car with the SAME money invested in ANY other power adders?

not trolling or flaming, simply seeking to understand your perspective...

A Phantom ESC equipped '86 wouldn't need to pull on a car with the same money invested in ANY other power adders because it would already be ahead. Dollar for dollar, there are no bolt-ons that come close. Videos are on the first page of this thread if you're looking for proof.