Tail Light Condensation - Page 43 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

jermyzy · 02-23-2013, 04:05 PM

Definitely not fixed on production line. I took delivery on Feb 20. I've owned my car for only 3 days and I see this...worth getting replaced? Seems like the replacements are still leaking.

#87 · 02-23-2013, 04:32 PM

there should be NO condensation. How many new cars do you see with foggy lights?

Ive only had fog in ebay replacements on other vehicles

egraphic · 02-25-2013, 07:33 PM

Since I currently have no condensation inside my lights (it evaporated since the last rain), the service manager at my dealer believes that it will be sufficient to just replace the gaskets. Using a jet of water, they were able to confirm that the current gaskets are admitting small amounts of water.

From what I've read here, that's unlikely to fix the problem, but it's possible that Scion has a new strategy that legitimately sidesteps the replacement of the full assembly.

The challenge is that I live in Southern California, and who knows when we'll get enough rain to see condensation again? Oh, the disadvantages of living in a meteorological paradise!

I'll post again when I see how well this works...

UPDATE: 2/28
After having the car overnight, the dealer saw condensation in one lens, and accepted my iPhone photo taken a few weeks before as evidence for the other.

Even though my car was past the VIN number where sheet metal issues where the lens meets the bodywork were supposedly resolved at the Suburu plant, the dealer found that they did need to adjust the sheet metal and repaint portions of the area that's hidden behind the lenses.

So, both lenses are replaced and metal work completed. SouthCoast Toyota (Costa Mesa, California) provided amazing service again, and had me in a loaner while they solved the problem.

Now we just have to see if the problem reappears.

xjohnx · 03-08-2013, 01:20 PM

after almost 8000 miles and 8 months, i got bit by the condensation bug. time to make a service appt.

Mr.Jay · 03-08-2013, 01:22 PM

Alright guys I hate to say this but my passenger side light is a fish bowl again

this will make it set number 4 for me....

Double4Free · 03-08-2013, 01:53 PM

They refuse to change mine because I had one replaced by a ,mechanic when I got rear ended and they won't replace either because the bumper was replaced also. So my warranty on the tail lights is voided because of this?

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Mr.Jay · 03-08-2013, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double4Free

They refuse to change mine because I had one replaced by a ,mechanic when I got rear ended and they won't replace either because the bumper was replaced also. So my warranty on the tail lights is voided because of this?

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Try a different dealership or call up scion and ask them why you got denied and if the reasons given are just or not.

FRiSson · 03-09-2013, 07:11 PM

Damn... both tail lights were replaced under the tutelage of the Toyota rep. and now they're fogging up again!

Lonewolf · 03-09-2013, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRiSson

Damn... both tail lights were replaced under the tutelage of the Toyota rep. and now they're fogging up again!

Not surprising...the gaskets they installed on early 2013's are crap. It doesn't matter how people tighten the damn bolts...the original gaskets are junk, I believe that there is a new part number for them...best of luck

cnk · 03-09-2013, 11:33 PM

There's a new TSB out. . anyone able to download and share it? TSB 12-145-13

wdninja · 03-10-2013, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRiSson

Damn... both tail lights were replaced under the tutelage of the Toyota rep. and now they're fogging up again!

If you want a good set of gaskets, PM me, I'll hook you up.

FRiSson · 03-10-2013, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdninja

If you want a good set of gaskets, PM me, I'll hook you up.

Thanks, but I want Toyota to pay for it!

5AD86D · 03-10-2013, 03:01 PM

Don't worry there is definetly a Toyota Service Bulletin on this issue. I currently work at a Toyota dealership and if you are having that problem ...there are definitely some replacement lights that can be ordered to fix the problem.

speedracer38 · 03-10-2013, 06:45 PM

If anyone has a small amount of condensation in the lens I would recommend getting it replaced. After over 17k miles I'm amazed mine is doing this... I took the first picture 1 week ago and the second today and seeing how bad it is now is embarrassing. I brought it to the dealer yesterday and they are calling me tomorrow to let me know how soon they can replace it.

02-23-2013, 04:05 PM	#589
jermyzy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2013 WRB BRZ Sport-Tech 6MT Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 111 Thanks: 11 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Definitely not fixed on production line. I took delivery on Feb 20. I've owned my car for only 3 days and I see this...worth getting replaced? Seems like the replacements are still leaking. Last edited by jermyzy; 02-24-2013 at 11:59 PM.

02-25-2013, 07:33 PM	#591
egraphic Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: Blue Scion FR-S Location: Southern California Posts: 44 Thanks: 20 Thanked 16 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My dealer is just replacing - the gaskets Since I currently have no condensation inside my lights (it evaporated since the last rain), the service manager at my dealer believes that it will be sufficient to just replace the gaskets. Using a jet of water, they were able to confirm that the current gaskets are admitting small amounts of water. From what I've read here, that's unlikely to fix the problem, but it's possible that Scion has a new strategy that legitimately sidesteps the replacement of the full assembly. The challenge is that I live in Southern California, and who knows when we'll get enough rain to see condensation again? Oh, the disadvantages of living in a meteorological paradise! I'll post again when I see how well this works... UPDATE: 2/28 After having the car overnight, the dealer saw condensation in one lens, and accepted my iPhone photo taken a few weeks before as evidence for the other. Even though my car was past the VIN number where sheet metal issues where the lens meets the bodywork were supposedly resolved at the Suburu plant, the dealer found that they did need to adjust the sheet metal and repaint portions of the area that's hidden behind the lenses. So, both lenses are replaced and metal work completed. SouthCoast Toyota (Costa Mesa, California) provided amazing service again, and had me in a loaner while they solved the problem. Now we just have to see if the problem reappears. Last edited by egraphic; 02-28-2013 at 06:39 PM. Reason: UPDATE

03-08-2013, 01:22 PM	#593
Mr.Jay Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Drives: FRS :D Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 2,985 Thanks: 545 Thanked 699 Times in 438 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Alright guys I hate to say this but my passenger side light is a fish bowl again this will make it set number 4 for me.... __________________ Out of the FRS game

03-08-2013, 01:53 PM	#594
Double4Free Ashes to ashes. Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Asphalt FR-S Location: Chicago Posts: 236 Thanks: 11 Thanked 31 Times in 23 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	They refuse to change mine because I had one replaced by a ,mechanic when I got rear ended and they won't replace either because the bumper was replaced also. So my warranty on the tail lights is voided because of this? Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2 __________________ It is in change that we find purpose.

03-10-2013, 06:45 PM	#602
speedracer38 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2015 CWP Subaru BRZ Series.Blue Location: Connecticut Posts: 244 Thanks: 113 Thanked 131 Times in 58 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If anyone has a small amount of condensation in the lens I would recommend getting it replaced. After over 17k miles I'm amazed mine is doing this... I took the first picture 1 week ago and the second today and seeing how bad it is now is embarrassing. I brought it to the dealer yesterday and they are calling me tomorrow to let me know how soon they can replace it. Attached Images

02-23-2013, 04:32 PM	#590
#87 I usually post drunk Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: BRZ Location: NY Posts: 1,487 Thanks: 15 Thanked 490 Times in 231 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	there should be NO condensation. How many new cars do you see with foggy lights? Ive only had fog in ebay replacements on other vehicles

03-08-2013, 01:20 PM	#592
xjohnx Grip>Slip Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 13 SWP BRZ Ltd - Innovate Powered! Location: RVA Posts: 3,563 Thanks: 656 Thanked 1,716 Times in 1,031 Posts Mentioned: 45 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	after almost 8000 miles and 8 months, i got bit by the condensation bug. time to make a service appt.

03-09-2013, 07:11 PM	#596
FRiSson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: FR-S MT Location: New England Posts: 1,081 Thanks: 118 Thanked 483 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Damn... both tail lights were replaced under the tutelage of the Toyota rep. and now they're fogging up again!

03-09-2013, 11:33 PM	#598
cnk Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: '13 DGM BRZ Limited Location: NJ Posts: 1,201 Thanks: 59 Thanked 547 Times in 339 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There's a new TSB out. . anyone able to download and share it? TSB 12-145-13

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