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Old 09-27-2015, 01:27 PM   #43
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@racerx1715 thanks for the weekend response, really appreciated! However there is physically just not enough clearance at the moment, not a matter of slotting things in one at a time.


Don't worry too much about me, I'm thinking of going CAI route with an aluminum tube so clearance won't be able issue later. Looking at your photo, clearance if it were to fit will be tight, less worried about box more so about the metal line near the tstat. Even the rotation of the tstat hex could impact the clearance if you know what I mean. Simplest fix might be taller spacer to clear the metal line.
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No problem, we understand that most installs happen during the weekend so I try to keep a watchful eye. When I get back to the shop tomorrow I will see if we can get to the bottom of the possible issue. When I performed the installation I do know it was a tight fit.

Thanks for the feedback!! If we do run into the T-stat hex head being the issue we can also change the design and cut them again.
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Old 09-28-2015, 01:54 PM   #44
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@racerx1715 thanks for the weekend response, really appreciated! However there is physically just not enough clearance at the moment, not a matter of slotting things in one at a time.


Don't worry too much about me, I'm thinking of going CAI route with an aluminum tube so clearance won't be able issue later. Looking at your photo, clearance if it were to fit will be tight, less worried about box more so about the metal line near the tstat. Even the rotation of the tstat hex could impact the clearance if you know what I mean. Simplest fix might be taller spacer to clear the metal line.
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So I went through the install again this morning. I do not think its possible to install the intake after the thermostatic adapter plate is installed with fittings. Installing the thermostatic adapter plate does not require removal of the OEM intake, I did however notice that the tstat hex if not in the correct orientation will contact the metal line. Modifying the design of the tstat hex or making the spacer taller would work in both cases. I also noticed this to be an issue with the mocal thermostatic adapter plate, so I am surprised that this has not come up yet.

Here are a few pics showing the clearance with the 45 degree fittings. Hope this helps some. The last picture shows the best position for the tstat hex to provide maximum clearance.





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@racerx1715 thanks for doing the additional testing. How do you suggest adjusting the t-stat hex? I'm assuming this is torqued appropriately?

I think easiest might be taller spacer - would it at all be possible to get a longer bolt and spacer combo to replace the ones I have?

thanks!

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Glad to see the ongoing development/taking feedback. I assume the easiest fix would be a slightly taller spacer?

Question regarding the Bell heat exchanger: Have you guys done any sort of testing comparing this with the setrab series 6 and the larger 9? Just curious if there was any specific reason you went with the Bell instead of the series 9.

Planning on getting this kit as soon as the top mount option and bell heat exchanger is available.
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@racerx1715 thanks for doing the additional testing. How do you suggest adjusting the t-stat hex? I'm assuming this is torqued appropriately?

I think easiest might be taller spacer - would it at all be possible to get a longer bolt and spacer combo to replace the ones I have?

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Yes, the hex tstat should be torqued. Can you see if its possible to turn the hex to provide the best clearance?

We can supply you with a new t-stat hex, but at this time we would not be able to provide a longer bolt and spacer.

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Glad to see the ongoing development/taking feedback. I assume the easiest fix would be a slightly taller spacer?

Question regarding the Bell heat exchanger: Have you guys done any sort of testing comparing this with the setrab series 6 and the larger 9? Just curious if there was any specific reason you went with the Bell instead of the series 9.

Planning on getting this kit as soon as the top mount option and bell heat exchanger is available.
The simple and easiest solution is to re-design the tstat hex. This is what we will move forward with.

We use bell cores for quite a few applications. They are usually overlooked due to the fact that you will have to fabricate end tanks for the core. This is not a problem for us. We will be offering the Setrab 613, 619 and I believe 2 bell cores for the oil cooler kit.

We have not had a chance to perform any testing with the bell cores, but we might be looking for beta testers that currently are using or have used the Setrab cores.
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@racerx1715 sounds good, please let me know when a new t-stat hex is available!
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@racerx1715 random question, do you have specs for the viton o-ring behind the -10AN? Just in case I need to replace the AN fittings for whatever reason in the future, would like to also swap the rings.

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Yes, the O-ring number is -116
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Top mount oil cooler location completed!!

We finally wrapped up the top mounting location for the oil cooler, and have added the 619 Setrab core as an option. One of the key aspects for the top mount location was no drilling. I'm quite happy with the final mounting, I hope you guys are too!

We also have decided to add Banjo fittings to our options as clearance between the thermostatic adapter plate and many air intakes is very tight. The Banjo fittings while not ideal for flow will allow for those tight clearances.

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Hmm, if it's top mount, why it looks in pics mounted both at top and bottom? :/
Or it's simply to show off both options simultaneously?
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How much space is there between the oil cooler and the radiator? I'm considering getting the Edelbrock SC, which has a water-to-air intercooler that mounts right in front of the radiator.
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Hmm, if it's top mount, why it looks in pics mounted both at top and bottom? :/
Or it's simply to show off both options simultaneously?
The cooler is mounted to the crash beam, the bottom mounts are to prevent it from rocking back and forth so the weight of the cooler is supported from above.

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Sorry, no room for an intercooler and the oil cooler. It would require mounting the oil cooler in a different location or using our bottom mount kit.
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BigFatFlip: also imho by logic intercooler should have coldest air possible. Imho using for it preheated air by other rad is not exactly most efficient. While coolant/oil working temps are hot enough for rads to still be efficient enough because of high enough delta between temps .. even slight temperature rise after other rads would hurt intercooler efficiency a lot.
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