Unequal Length Header Noise

[sluflyer06]

Jealous of all you with UEL. My wife thinks the Suby rumble is about the worst way a car could possibly sound. Guess a lifetime of oldschool tuned BMW's has her set on that smooth growl.

[tennisfreak]

Originally Posted by B-R-Z

I know how to read.. what did I overlook/misinterpret?

Just give up you cant argue with someone who insists on posting like a douche.

Someone can just as easily make their car sound "Ricer" with a header as without, its all subjective.

But gotta love that internet attitude, right??

[B-R-Z]

Originally Posted by tennisfreak

Just give up you cant argue with someone who insists on posting like a douche.

Someone can just as easily make their car sound "Ricer" with a header as without, its all subjective.

But gotta love that internet attitude, right??

True, I don't think he had a comeback when he realized he had mods he added for coolness not performance.

Ordered my UEL header the other day, will be here Friday. Also ordered o2 bung and o2 sensor extension cable for secondary cat.

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by B-R-Z

True, I don't think he had a comeback when he realized he had mods he added for coolness not performance.

Ordered my UEL header the other day, will be here Friday. Also ordered o2 bung and o2 sensor extension cable for secondary cat.

feel free to pick at which mod I did that only added coolness and not performance.
Here, I'll help you.

License plate.
Tail lights.
Please tell me which of these two mods could be had to add performance?

It still comes back to , why have sound only when you could have performance and sound at the same time. It may not be logical to you, but that ain't my problem.

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by bfrank1972

IMHO UEL sounds like an old Porsche flat 6.... misifiring on two cylinders

Yeap, people have different preferences to sound. Grab an EL if you are so inclined.

[B-R-Z]

Originally Posted by s2d4

feel free to pick at which mod I did that only added coolness and not performance.
Here, I'll help you.

License plate.
Tail lights.
Please tell me which of these two mods could be had to add performance?

It still comes back to , why have sound only when you could have performance and sound at the same time. It may not be logical to you, but that ain't my problem.

So those are your only mods, if so then you got me.

Doesn't UEL help eliminate torque dip? And gains of EL vs UEL is negligible when NA, if that's going to be your argument.

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by B-R-Z

So those are your only mods, if so then you got me.

Doesn't UEL help eliminate torque dip? And gains of EL vs UEL is negligible when NA, if that's going to be your argument.

Yes, and yes.
What is your point again? I really don't think we are talking about the same thing. Hence why I said you should probably go back and read from the start?

Only CBE and NA is what I was referring to, and headers give you both sound and performance. What are you on about? EL vs UEL what? Pick whatever you like.

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by tennisfreak

Just give up you cant argue with someone who insists on posting like a douche.

Someone can just as easily make their car sound "Ricer" with a header as without, its all subjective.

But gotta love that internet attitude, right??

You misunderstood, CBE on NA for sound only is in my opinion rice.

Nothing to do with people making it sound "Ricer", although it would be rather hard to make it sound like a fart can if the header is the only thing changed, nothing is leaking etc.

[B-R-Z]

Originally Posted by s2d4

Yes, and yes.
What is your point again? I really don't think we are talking about the same thing. Hence why I said you should probably go back and read from the start?

Only CBE and NA is what I was referring to, and headers give you both sound and performance. What are you on about? EL vs UEL what? Pick whatever you like.

I personally bought my axleback because the stock muffler tips look like two drinking straws coming out of the rear bumper and I wanted more of a sporty sounding exhaust. Not every cosmetic/non performance mod makes you a civic riceboy.

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by B-R-Z

I personally bought my axleback because the stock muffler tips look like two drinking straws coming out of the rear bumper and I wanted more of a sporty sounding exhaust. Not every cosmetic/non performance mod makes you a civic riceboy.

You will have a more sporty sound with the header alone. You won't have to worry about drone or too loud by wasting money on cbe then compromise on a header if staying NA. You also don't need to justify your purchase to me or anyone else for that matter.

In any case, we have different opinions, how about we agree to disagree?

[TruRace]

http://dsportmag.com/browse/product-...xhaust-systems

There is nothing ricey about that.

[B-R-Z]

Originally Posted by s2d4

You will have a more sporty sound with the header alone. You won't have to worry about drone or too loud by wasting money on cbe then compromise on a header if staying NA. You also don't need to justify your purchase to me or anyone else for that matter.

In any case, we have different opinions, how about we agree to disagree?

The header doesn't eliminate the tiny exhaust tips... anyhow let's not stink up this thread more than we already did.

[tennisfreak]

Originally Posted by s2d4

You misunderstood, CBE on NA for sound only is in my opinion rice.

Nothing to do with people making it sound "Ricer", although it would be rather hard to make it sound like a fart can if the header is the only thing changed, nothing is leaking etc.

Ok no problemo.

Still there are those who do not wish to tinker with replacing parts with catalytic converters hence the reason to change just the CBE.

I replaced only my CBE and if you heard you may indeed think it sounds "rice". Personally I have received nothing but compliments on the way my car sounds from both those who are into modifying cars and those who could care less about modifying cars.

I can take the $800-$1200 I would have spent on a header and put that money toward a supercharger system down the road.
Different strokes for different folks.

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by tennisfreak

I replaced only my CBE and if you heard you may indeed think it sounds "rice". .

Not necessary the sound itself, but the idea of sound only.

Originally Posted by tennisfreak

I can take the $800-$1200 I would have spent on a header and put that money toward a supercharger system down the road.
Different strokes for different folks.

Yes, for FI. However, you'll find that there will be differences going with headers that incorporates larger pipes for runners.