Greddy vs avo stage 1 Pros and cons of each

[SliverBrz]

Lets get back on topic guys.

Between these two kits.

Anyone have a p3cars vent guage? Is that good enough or do i need another gauge?

[OjiGeorge]

Originally Posted by Boss Paco

... Sure, crash beam blah blah blah. You either worry or don't. We are all accepting risk when we mod our cars...

I'm not sure how insurance companies are down in America, but up here in Canada, that's a F***load of risk to be taking on. We might all agree that an aftermarket crash beam is sufficient (or better than stock). That assessment is 100% OK if your ride is only used on the track. As soon as you cut or replace the crash beam and drive it on the street, with passenger(s) in there, you are a douche bag.

Why?

Because it doesn't matter what you think. At the end of the day it's going to be the insurance company who decides if they need to out of pocket $3-4mil or not. Who else is going to pay? You?

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Originally Posted by SliverBrz

Lets get back on topic guys.

Between these two kits.

Anyone have a p3cars vent guage? Is that good enough or do i need another gauge?

Aem failsafe is a must imho

[shayangh]

is it sad that i don't even have the car and still lurk this thread like a Facebook stalker?

[shayangh]

Also any thoughts on the Full Blow Motors Kit?

[SliverBrz]

Originally Posted by shayangh

Also any thoughts on the Full Blow Motors Kit?

seriously did you have to put that in this thread? after all that was just said?

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by SliverBrz

seriously did you have to put that in this thread? after all that was just said?

lol

[shayangh]

Originally Posted by SliverBrz

seriously did you have to put that in this thread? after all that was just said?

sorry just wanted an opinion

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by SliverBrz

Lets get back on topic guys.

Between these two kits.

Anyone have a p3cars vent guage? Is that good enough or do i need another gauge?

I am not a fan of the p3cars vent gauge. The OEM MAP sensor and AFR sensor are both limited in the outputs they can produce, so I would rather have an aftermarket boost/AFR gauge that I know is accurate.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by shayangh

Also any thoughts on the Full Blow Motors Kit?

Originally Posted by shayangh

sorry just wanted an opinion

PM me or check out my threads:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42491
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29761

[Boss Paco]

Originally Posted by SliverBrz

Lets get back on topic guys.

Between these two kits.

Anyone have a p3cars vent guage? Is that good enough or do i need another gauge?

I run it. Awesome. I love it. Paired with my 3 bar map sensor and Innovate LC-1 wired into the aux port, I have an eye on everything important - EGT, oil and coolant temps, IAT, factory O2, boost bad wideband O2.

Only downside I see is that I can't watch my gauge while I log but they make a splitter for that. Otherwise, clean and simple solution.

[Boss Paco]

Originally Posted by OjiGeorge

I'm not sure how insurance companies are down in America, but up here in Canada, that's a F***load of risk to be taking on. We might all agree that an aftermarket crash beam is sufficient (or better than stock). That assessment is 100% OK if your ride is only used on the track. As soon as you cut or replace the crash beam and drive it on the street, with passenger(s) in there, you are a douche bag.

Why?

Because it doesn't matter what you think. At the end of the day it's going to be the insurance company who decides if they need to out of pocket $3-4mil or not. Who else is going to pay? You?

Solution - don't wreck.

Seriously - there are many driving much riskier cars 100% factory original. There are many with mods that put you in more danger than a modified or deleted crash beam, but you don't see anyone crying foul, do you? When you mod your car, you accept the inherent risks associated.

Let's just hope our mothers never find out the stupid things their children do.

[SliverBrz]

people with the AVO, do we retain our overpipe?

i have a motiv overpipe and was wondering.

[AllDayJonRay]

Originally Posted by Boss Paco

Solution - don't wreck.

Seriously - there are many driving much riskier cars 100% factory original. There are many with mods that put you in more danger than a modified or deleted crash beam, but you don't see anyone crying foul, do you? When you mod your car, you accept the inherent risks associated.

Let's just hope our mothers never find out the stupid things their children do.

That's a silly justification, IMO.

If you mod your car, yea, you should be ready to accept the inherent risks involved. The issue is that you don't fully understand (or account for) just what the extent of those risks are when you hack up crash safety items. And I don't mean simply the risk of more damage in an accident. I'm talking about the insurance company denying claims because you tampered with safety equipment. That's expensive when it comes to collision repairs, but its bankruptcy level expenses when medical bills fall on the owner because the insurance company [rightfully] denies claims. (And worse still, though I know this is an extreme scenario, is the potential for lawsuits being filed against the owner of the vehicle).

Those cars that are 'riskier 100% factory' are still covered by the insurance company if the factory safety equipment wasn't tampered with...

So please don't try to downplay the risk of this modification to others because you don't care about the risk. This should absolutely be a factor to consider when selecting the right turbo kit.