Poll: Xbox One or PS4 Revote

[Sbeezy]

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

Every business decision is a decision made with making more money in mind.

The good thing about the Vita is you'll be able to use it to stream games from the PS4. I've heard there's a couple of good games, but it just doesn't have a huge library yet.

the thing has been out for damn near two years already... they need to get on the ball... I will NOT use my vita to stream games that's a Meh feature at best, I didn't even use my PSP for remote play.

[Sbeezy]

I've already paid for both in full so i have no worries now to see what games to pre-order for my ps4

[n2oinferno]

Originally Posted by Sbeezy

the thing has been out for damn near two years already... they need to get on the ball... I will NOT use my vita to stream games that's a Meh feature at best, I didn't even use my PSP for remote play.

Sony confirmed today that, internet speeds depending, you can play your PS4 games on your Vita over the internet. That would've been nice while I was on a business trip last week.

[Hanakuso]

PlayStation Won for me

[wallace03]

Originally Posted by BlueSTaR

Except you haven't been keeping up.

Most all of the "haters" were fanboys. Most of the negative press was perpetuated by Sony fans that, for years, have been scorned because of their lack of meaningful exclusives and pitiful online community.

Most of the people buying the Xbox One, were buying it because of: Brand Loyalty, Exclusives, and Vision Belief.

"Cheaper" is relative. The equal equipment on a PS4 will surpass the out the door cost of a Xbox One.

You seem desperately misinformed.

Originally Posted by cfusionpm

Except that information is grossly misrepresented, and at worst entirely inaccurate. Most of that was perpetuated by people who either didn't fully understand the system, or just had an ax to grind because they need reasons to hate on Microsoft. Granted it wasn't exactly sunshine and rainbows, their vision was that of a fully integrated and connected system. With that requirement, developers are free to explore advancements like the driver AI in Forza that learns patterns from you and others online. Or the cloud computed AI characters in Titanfall. These can still be accomplished, but would require an internet connection. Without a system wide requirement, devs now have to re program (or remove) those features to function offline.

And you're entirely naive if you think Sony didn't plan their entire E3 showing around a middle finger to Microsoft. Because it's not like any of the actual games or features they showed were all that great.

I admit i did not do a lot of research, but read from a few tech websites and heard from a lot of people without any brand loyalty that the xbox one was originally designed so games could not be sold back and had to be bought new in order to be played. I also believed someone from MS said after E3 if users didnt have internet connection then their was an accommodation for them, the xbox 360. Is this accurate? Also I don't understand what you were trying to say about brand loyalty or the cheaper statement. I personally will buy what offers the best quality for the money, and there is no way i would be loyal to a company that tries to royally A-Fck me. xbox360 is my primary gaming console as of right now, but i have a grudge against MS ever since they tried to charge me some absurd amount of money to send someone to fix a problem i had with a brand new Windows disc that wasn't working that i had bought brand new after i had a 30 minute phone walk through with some dude name Jim, getting paid $2.00 an hour living in India. I understand businesses will always try to maximize profit, but seriously? You're a multi-billion company, and you want to charge customers extra money when your product fails to work properly? They also only replace the xbox 360 once for red ring issues. As far as Sony goes, i'm pretty sure they planned on pointing out the flaws of the Xbox one. That is what competition between two companies is about, im sure MS would have done the same thing if they were sitting in sony's place. I'm not trying to convince anyone to buy whatever game console. I just thought the fact that MS even tried to pull that BS was insulting, and i honestly believe that did it out of pure greed. To each their own.

[cfusionpm]

Originally Posted by Mango22

There u go again, deflecting the "we" part and trying to spin some other point that was never being debated. You deflect well.

Five of the top 10 selling 360 games of all time are Call of Duty titles. Three others are Halo titles.

1 Kinect Adventures! - 20.14 million units sold
2 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - 14.95
3 Call of Duty: Black Ops - 13.97
4 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - 13.04
5 Call of Duty: Black Ops II - 12.40
6 Halo 3 - 11.78
7 Grand Theft Auto IV - 10.31
8 Halo: Reach - 9.43
9 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - 8.90
10 Halo 4 - 8.35

PS3 has a similar story:

1 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - 12.75
2 Call of Duty: Black Ops - 11.97
3 Gran Turismo 5 - 10.44
4 Call of Duty: Black Ops II - 10.40
5 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - 10.17
6 Grand Theft Auto IV - 9.76
7 FIFA Soccer 13 - 6.57
8 Battlefield 3 - 6.45
9 FIFA Soccer 12 - 6.38
10 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - 6.32

This is what "we" want because this is what "we" buy. It's the industry standard for PVP shooting games on consoles.

I did give an alternative opinion, the Occulus Rift, which will change the same ole same ole, run and gun, regurgitated games that you somehow think are next gen, ground breaking and exciting. Accepting your views about Titanfall is accepting mediocrity.

Unless we're on different pages, that thing is just a VR helmet. I remember doing something like that in malls in the mid 90s.

I never said Titanfall was a giant leap in groundbreaking innovation. It just looks VERY VERY GOOD at what it was set out to be: a fun, balanced multiplayer game with huge mechs and lots of "single player wow moments."

I get it, the game is not for you and the console is not for you either. Lucky for you Battlefield is coming to PS4 so you can be happy about that.

And the xbone is short for Xbox one, as OP is short for original post/er, as is PS4 short for ...
Get a grip dude.

I'm sure it's just as classy as saying Piss 4?

[Luis_GT]

Originally Posted by wallace03

I admit i did not do a lot of research, but read from a few tech websites and heard from a lot of people without any brand loyalty that the xbox one was originally designed so games could not be sold back and had to be bought new in order to be played. I also believed someone from MS said after E3 if users didnt have internet connection then their was an accommodation for them, the xbox 360. Is this accurate? Also I don't understand what you were trying to say about brand loyalty or the cheaper statement. I personally will buy what offers the best quality for the money, and there is no way i would be loyal to a company that tries to royally A-Fck me. xbox360 is my primary gaming console as of right now, but i have a grudge against MS ever since they tried to charge me some absurd amount of money to send someone to fix a problem i had with a brand new Windows disc that wasn't working that i had bought brand new after i had a 30 minute phone walk through with some dude name Jim, getting paid $2.00 an hour living in India. I understand businesses will always try to maximize profit, but seriously? You're a multi-billion company, and you want to charge customers extra money when your product fails to work properly? They also only replace the xbox 360 once for red ring issues. As far as Sony goes, i'm pretty sure they planned on pointing out the flaws of the Xbox one. That is what competition between two companies is about, im sure MS would have done the same thing if they were sitting in sony's place. I'm not trying to convince anyone to buy whatever game console. I just thought the fact that MS even tried to pull that BS was insulting, and i honestly believe that did it out of pure greed. To each their own.

[ame]http://youtu.be/bTAKSBvuT-A[/ame]

Around 1:40 mark

[Mango22]

cfusionpm, You just confirmed what I've said all along, regurgitated games "we've" already played over and over and over again, just new pkging. More of the same. Nothing new to see here. Just more revenue for the junk food for the mind machine.

Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, you will care about the dog,
Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, xbox GO HOME!

Nuff said.

Oh, the Piss4 was funny, thanks. I got a chuckle out of that one. But you know your credibility is questionable now.

[cfusionpm]

Originally Posted by Mango22

You just confirmed what I've said all along, regurgitated games "we've" already played over and over and over again, just new pkging. More of the same. Nothing new to see here. Just more revenue for the junk food for the mind machine.

Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, you will care about the dog,
Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, xbox GO HOME.

Nuff said.

And yet, they keep selling. Tens of millions of copies. Every year. I wonder why.......

Maybe because they have a lot of great gameplay modes and are, you know, fun?

[Luis_GT]

Originally Posted by Mango22

cfusionpm, You just confirmed what I've said all along, regurgitated games "we've" already played over and over and over again, just new pkging. More of the same. Nothing new to see here. Just more revenue for the junk food for the mind machine.

Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, you will care about the dog,
Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, Call of doody, xbox GO HOME!

Nuff said.

[ame]http://youtu.be/0QaFgvYU1TE[/ame]

[Mango22]

Originally Posted by cfusionpm

And yet, they keep selling. Tens of millions of copies. Every year. I wonder why.......

Maybe because they have a lot of great gameplay modes and are, you know, fun?

Constant repetitive killing may be "fun", but I'll take innovation and creativity over it any day. As long as more of the same sells, there will be no innovation and creativity, just repackaged revenue generators like COD. Here's a link to some interesting info for ya. Maybe gamers are not settling for mediocrity anymore.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ms+s...w=1024&bih=672

[cfusionpm]

Originally Posted by Mango22

Constant repetitive killing may be "fun", but I'll take innovation and creativity over it any day. As long as more of the same sells, there will be no innovation and creativity, just repackaged revenue generators like COD. Here's a link to some interesting info for ya. Maybe gamers are not settling for mediocrity anymore.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ms+s...w=1024&bih=672

I don't buy it because it's a repackaged game, I buy it because Infinity Ward puts out a quality product. By the same margin, I specifically do NOT support the Treyarch titles (CoD: WaW, Black Ops, and Black Ops II) which, while they have some cooler features, often suffer much worse fit and finish/polish issues and bad weapon balancing. Still waiting to hear what game you're looking forward to that's so "revolutionary"

Besides, most of the reason I play these at all is because I don't have the time or money to take the real toys to the range whenever I want. Ammo prices are ridiculous these days.





By the way, every link in that google search is at least a month old or older. Things have changed quite a bit since then (likely as a direct result OF the content of the link).

[Mango22]

Originally Posted by cfusionpm

Still waiting to hear what game you're looking forward to that's so "revolutionary"

http://www.pcgamesn.com/erotic-episo...n-says-founder

Please don't tell me you'd choose COD over this. Then again you probably would, wouldn't you. At least they are thinking outside the box, Xbox that is.
Sample video included on the link too, and don't blush.

PS4 has two dev kits, what about MS?

Oh and your homoerotic gun pics are great. Specially the .22 GSG wannabe MP5 assault rifle

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by cfusionpm

I don't buy it because it's a repackaged game, I buy it because Infinity Ward puts out a quality product. By the same margin, I specifically do NOT support the Treyarch titles (CoD: WaW, Black Ops, and Black Ops II) which, while they have some cooler features, often suffer much worse fit and finish/polish issues and bad weapon balancing. Still waiting to hear what game you're looking forward to that's so "revolutionary"

Besides, most of the reason I play these at all is because I don't have the time or money to take the real toys to the range whenever I want. Ammo prices are ridiculous these days.





By the way, every link in that google search is at least a month old or older. Things have changed quite a bit since then (likely as a direct result OF the content of the link).

I think this is the reason I'm personally not that jazzed about either system. Nothing exciting and new.

Every demo I've seen is a just a pretty variation on something I've already played. And the jump in graphics quality isn't even as significant as say going from PS to PS2.